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I’m pretty sure I’m missing some subtext here.
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I’m pretty sure I’m missing some subtext here.
No subtext.
But a lot of Trekkers aren’t into the books at all. No show episode or movie treatment has touched on the Borg/V’ger connection. So, without the books, or web sites, that correlation isn’t ever brought up.
Now, us hard core Trekkers, sure. We’ve even Phil Farranded these ideas.
GODDAMN HAMSTERS!
[God Voice]
Ham§sters!
I damn thee!
[/God voice]
The episode in which Seven’s parents (the Hansens) are portrayed in flashback (The Raven?) shows them as academics studying specifically the Borg, despite the fact that (according to the TNG chronology), nobody in the Federation should have even heard of the Borg for another 10 years or so. You’re right that if the Hansen family had just caught a wormhole into the Delta quadrant to study it, completely ignorant of the Borg until they got there, the chronology would have fit, but that’s not how the events were portrayed.
–Cliffy
Aren’t we forgetting Hugh and Lor’s Borg?
Wasn’t Lors Borg the bassist for Scorpion?
Huge came after Q Who and after the supposed first contact with the Borg.
Hugh was later in TNG. “The Best of Both Worlds” was the two-part episode between seasons 3 and 4. The episodes with Lore leading the self-aware group of Borg was the two part “Descent” – the cliffhanger ending season 6 and starting season 7 of TNG.
And as Cliffy mentioned, the whole Annika Hansen backstory in Voyager screwed up the timeline established in TNG on the first encounters with the Borg.
Yeah, but if you do what I do and treat Voyager like fanfic, then everything works out. The canon works better if you just ignore everything Voyager ever did – how they completely took the Borg down from Guinan’s “you don’t get mad at a hurricane, they’re an unstoppable force of nature” speech to Janeway’s “shoot at and destroy them every week, oh by the way Seven is there anyway to enhance this with Borg technology” approach really frustrates me. The writers didn’t want to deal with long-term repercussions in the series, so they neutered the only beloved enemy Voyager ever faced.
BTW, Hugh was created in “I, Borg” and later appeared in “Descent, Part II,” where he helped Our Heroes rescue Data and deactivate Lore.
Ah, they’re 1920’s style “Death Rays”.
Nope. In “Nemesis”, one of the Starfleet ships seen on a viewscreen is called “Archer”.
on the trek BBS, B&B get panned and trashed daily for the crap that they ignore as being “Cannon” history of Star Trek. and they use the excuse of “First Contact” changing the timeline every chance they can get. personally, I think they are just too lazy to have their writers use the guidebooks that paramount has authorized as required research material when penning an episode.
(if I keep going with this, I should open a pit thread to trash B&B)
I maintain that teh Temporal War in Enterprise is there simply to negate all the canonical messing around Rick Berman is doing. The final epsiode of Season 7 (if it ever gets made) will be “Oh, it was all a dream” kind of ending, where the temporal War will adjust the timeline back to what it is in TOS.
*smites thee with a 1920’s style death-ray.
Hate you Michael Ellis.
Hate you.