I am on Twitter every day for my job. Quite a lot actually.
Also, I provided you evidence of the serious shortcomings of Twitter.
You’ve provided nothing but your feels.
I’m not really sure who you are talking about here. I don’t regard Joe Biden winning the election as representing a mandate for Bernie Sanders’ agenda, and I can’t recall anyone else making such an absurd claim, either.
And the argument that the Democrats could have won more votes by denouncing BLM ignores the fact that Democrats actually depend on black people voting. If they’d done what you seem to want, the likeliest result is that blacks would have stayed home in droves and Trump would have been re-elected.
My condolences to your employer for utterly wasting their money, then.
And I accept that there are bad actors on Twitter, and I assert it’s not hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. Just as adults do with every type of media.
As evidence I’ll point out, for example, that the President of the United States hires and fires people on Twitter. When you see this, you know this is real news. He is also a profligate liar on Twitter. Because I am smart, I know not to believe his lies, but I know his lies themselves are news because people believe and repeat them. The same goes for many prominent media figures, many prominent politicians, celebrities, entertainers, scientists, policy wonks, and a number of other people that historically we haven’t had direct access to.
But, so be it. If you’re too timid to wade directly into primary sources, that’s fine, get your news from secondary sources. I understand that’s easier and requires no critical thought.
The OP comes in and claims that the “Far left is already being demonized”, and doesn’t seem to get it.
The point is that the Far Left probably lost Biden more votes than they gained him, because they were seen as being at least as extreme to moderate Biden-leaning Republicans who were otherwise sick to death of Trump, as the Tea Party does to anyone in the center or Left…
The Democrats really missed an opportunity to form a unity ticket with the Republicans. We could have put the left down for another generation.
Why do I have the feeling that “Far Left” in this context is a euphemism for “Black People”? Seriously, your idea is that we should have run against a movement that the overwhelming majority of one of our strongest demographics supported?
I assure you, I don’t think this election gives anyone a mandate to pass Bernie’s policy. This election has shown that there are 70,000,000 Americans who would support a racist, fascist, anti-science populist. It showed that the BLM movement is more important then ever.
If the Democrats were only Conservative, they could get all the Conservative policy they want passed!
Says the person who started this with:
Do tell your “primary sources” here? You are basing your perceptions of “self-described leftists” from what some randos on Twitter tweeted.
Then you change your game and tell us how good you are at “separating the wheat from the chaff” and can get at primary sources. There is none of that in what you posted.
I showed you a study about how false information nearly always beats out the truth on Twitter, spreads more rapidly and penetrates deeper. Your response to that is you are just special and can sort it out and I must be stupid.
I’m done with you and your goalpost moving.
Not at all. I’m usually imagining a bunch of spacey hippies, inexperienced college students and people whose commitment to some of these ideas is such that they don’t/wouldn’t care who else they step on in their zeal to implement them.
… what are you basing this “probably” on? Are there any objective measures you can show that indicate the far left lost biden more votes than he gained?
Further proof that you just don’t get it. Some people consider other things more important than whether or not Trump is racist. Or whether he’s anti-science. Or fascist.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re endorsing those things any more than a vote for Biden means that they endorse UHC, or any of the other planks in the Democratic platform.
For some who voted Trump, their concern about public safety outweighed in their minds, the negatives about Trump. For some, it might have been the concern about higher taxes or further regulation of their livelihood. And certainly some are just assholes who like to watch the world burn, or who like the idea that Trump is all those things.
The Far Left didn’t get this- they’re blinded by the idea that BLM is THE most important thing out there right now to them, so it must be to everyone else. That’s not the case.
I think a surprisingly large number of people were primed to vote against Trump for all the reasons you mention, but the summer’s demonstrations and associated violence and rioting turned them off, and then the dumb-ass slogan “Defund the Police” literally drove them to the right out of fear. That is how the Far Left nearly lost the election for Biden.
You can go on all you like about how people are dumb, or can’t critical think, or whatever makes you feel good, but in the end, you have to use the tools at hand, and that means that if they want to win elections in the absence of someone as polarizing as Trump, you are going to have to appeal to those people in some fashion, like it or not, and not antagonize them or frighten them.
Were they making 400k or more, or just stupid?
Yeah – anti-science, racist fascists.
Note: any references to “you” are rhetorical, not meant to apply to @bump
The solution is education, not throwing our hands up and declaring America a safe space for people who think that global warming isn’t real or that racism doesn’t exist. I’m sorry, but the fact that it hurts your feelings doesn’t mean we as a society should treat trans people like shit, even if you’ll get upset about it and vote for a fascist like Trump to keep those “nasty trannies” out of the girl’s bathroom.
The Right likes to complain about safe spaces, but we CANNOT make America a safe space for ignorance. That’s how we are in the mess we are in with global warming. Sorry if it makes the Right cry, but Coal isn’t coming back, and that ignorance is destroying the world I want to leave behind for my kids. So frankly, fuck your feelings - facts don’t care about your feelings.
I’m sorry you failed to understand what that study meant. I heartily endorse your decision to stick to news sources with training wheels where they’ve already done the thinking for you.
If your definition of “Far Left” is “people who strongly support BLM”, then, yes, you’re talking about the vast majority of Black voters, as well as a large majority of young voters.
These arguments remind me of people who complain about the term “black lives matter” because it implies that lives that aren’t black don’t matter. How much of a special snowflake 
can you be that the declaration that black lives matter makes you lose it, whining “what about meeeeeeee?”
Well, them and the freaking Democratic Socialists of America… Remember them? Bernie Sanders is one, as are members of the ‘squad’. In total, by my count there were 8 democratic socialists running for the Democratic house in this election, and at least four of them won.
Various state houses also have Democrtic Socialists in their Democratic parties.
Democrats always do this. When they feel they are ascendant, suddenly Socialism is cool. Newsweek posts a front page saying, “we are all socialists now”, to lots of cheering from Democrats.
Then when it turns out Socialism is toxic, suddenly Democrats claim they don’t know why anyone would think they are socialists, and if anyone claims they are, it’s a horrible slur.
Could you post a link to one of those Newsweek pages? Somehow I missed that one.