The first Rock and Roll song: Oh! Susanna

Here is my thesis:
Oh! Susanna was written by Stephen Foster, as a minstrel song. He wrote it under a pseudonym because it was just not respectable to produce this kind of material. It became a national sensation, for dancing and because of it’s catchy melody. It became so popular that Foster eventually put his name on it. It became a national treasure and “folk” song, an important part of the national music, and the conversation between black and white cultures.

Was this the first time a white musician played black and had a giant crossover hit that transcended its origins? I’d say if it is, that’s rock and roll.

No. “Jimmy Crack Corn”, for one, has it beat by a couple of years, and is more explicitly faux-black, to boot.

Have you heard Neil Young and Crazy Horse’s version? Rock and Roll, indeed!

Nice reference. Interesting read.

I would base my case on this, from the Oh! Susanna Wiki:

The song is not only one of Stephen Foster’s best-known songs,[15] but also one of the best-known American songs.[16] No American song had sold more than 5,000 copies before; “Oh! Susanna” sold over 100,000.

I’m thinking the OP has a strange definition of what rock and roll is.

Yeah, rock and roll isn’t really defined by racial crossover. It’s more a mixing of blues and country, with an extra dose of excitement. So, it’s going to have to occur after the advent of country and blues.

My vote for earliest rock n roll song would be the middle of Blind Willie Johnson’s Let Your Light Shine on Me. He completely rocks out for a few bars, then goes back the folk part. I’m sure there’s earlier versions of that beat that I don’t know about, but someone will probably be along in a second to tell us what it is.

Yeah how did I miss that?

Well, you’ve seen his current Beatles thread, yeah? He’s able to stay very dedicated to an unusual thesis.

That’s a worthy choice. There’s also Louis Armstrong’s version of Saint Louis Blues, also recorded in '29, which rocks like crazy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbuwUO6vto

A few bars? I’d say from ~1:40 on to the last few seconds.

That’s smokin’ hot.

Cite? I thought minstrelsy was considered respectable in 1847.

I don’t really hear an emphasis on the back beat there, which is part of what defines rock-and-roll to me (and many others.) He’s still accenting on the 1 & 3, whereas one of the defining features of rock is shifting the emphasis to the 2 & 4. Great song, and I’d count it certainly as something that influenced rock, but it doesn’t sound like rock-and-roll to me.

That’s what I was going to say, except that I was going to call it “syncopation”.

I would posit something along the lines of “Rock This Joint” by Chris Powell and the Five Blue Flames as one of the earliest examples of what can be recognized as rock-and-roll, or an immediate progenitor. It’s hazy to say what the first rock song was, but that contains many of the hallmarks of what I consider rock (blues-based, emphasis on the backbeat, electric guitar, [though this is not necessarily a requirement, of course], etc.)

http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/scriptorium/sheetmusic/n/n13/n1329/

Probably by fortuitous coincidence rather than design, the song appeared in the public eye at the same time as the new polka fad was arriving from Europe. While minstrel songs prior to this time were considered uncouth, “Oh! Susanna!” thus provided an entry to the middle-class market.

http://www.legacy-america.net/national-heritage/oh-susanna-1848/

To say nothing of “played black”- though that may be more to only having heard the first three verses.

Written in the first person from the perspective of a black slave (at a time when slavery was legal in half of the states of the US), the song has its narrator “longing for de old plantation,”[4] which has long drawn criticism as romanticizing slavery, although Foster himself supported the North during the American Civil War and supported abolition of slavery.[citation needed] The mid-19th-century sheet music cover, pictured here, promotes the song as an “Ethiopian melody.”

A word now long reckoned to be an ethnic slur, “darkies,” used in Foster’s lyrics, has become such an embarrassment for singers and audiences alike that, for example, the word “brothers” was sung in place of the offensive word at the dedication of the new Florida state capitol building in 1978.[5] In general, at public performances another word like “lordy,” “mama,” “darling,” “brothers,” “children,” or “dear ones” is typically substituted.

The text is written, as is usual in minstrel songs, is a cross between the dialect historically spoken by African slaves and standard American English — the former attested to as being in use as late as the 1940s, in the works of the African American folklorist from Florida, Zora Neale Hurston.[6] It is an archaic form of African American vernacular English — and this is seen by some[who?] as racism against black Americans (because the music’s lyrics were written by a white Anglo-American).[citation needed]

In practice, the pronunciation, as written in dialect, has long been disregarded in favor of the corresponding standard American English usage, as demonstrated by the song’s performances at the 1955 Florida Folk Festival.[7]Old Folks at Home - Wikipedia
Abvove is wiki for “Old Folks at home”
Below is wiki as well

The minstrel show, or minstrelsy, was a US form of entertainment developed in the 19th century, consisting of comic skits, variety acts, dancing, and music, performed by white people in blackface or, especially after the U.S. Civil War, by black people.

Yeah, I should have said proto rock 'n roll. He’s not making a real a steady beat on the guitar top, and that doesn’t really emphasize either the 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. I think he might be emphasizing the 3 depending on how you count it, but it’s mostly just steady and throbbing. However, the lyrics at that point seem to emphasize the 2 and 4 (e.g.: “I know I’ve got religion”).

I’ve always been partial to The Byrds’ jangly chiming 12-string Rickenbacker driven folk-rock version of ‘Oh Susannah’.

That Crazy Horse version is damn cool, too. I hadn’t heard that one until reading this thread.

I’m with the camp of music snobs who feel that it’s impossible to pin down one song that marks the birth of rock ‘n’ roll.