BTW, I think it’s bullshit to call this “jerked out of context”. I provided a link to the video, a video published by WaPo and titled “Pelosi: ‘A wall is an immorality’”.
Let me ask something else, you say you’re opposed to spending $25B+ on a giant wall. Is that because you don’t think “walls work”?
No, I heard that bullshit too. Even last night Trump brought that up in a bullshit attempt to make it sound as though he was compromising with Democrats. Let’s hear Trump endorse your plan. He’ll probably get his fucking money then.
(And by the way, did you not see running coach’s link to the official Republican party platform??)
…which I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that they were scurrying to change as I type these words.
I apparently didn’t do a good enough job of downplaying just how mildly I’m opposed to it. If the Democrats were clamoring at Trump to “build the wall now! we must spend $25B NOW!!!” I wouldn’t lift a finger or donate a dime to oppose them. There is ~$3T in federal spending that I’d like to see cut first.
Anyways, to answer your question, no I believe “walls work” (you may recall me offering some cites to that effect earlier in this thread), at least some of the time and in concert with other border security measures. They are probably better in some places and less-effective in other places.
What would be the purpose of building a wall in those “less-effective” places, the ones that don’t work “some of the time,” like Trump and the GOP want to do?
You wouldn’t spend a mere $25 billion to PROTECT AMERICA?!?!!
You must be watching that fake news stuff.
Yes, I saw it. It wasn’t really what I asked for given that the claimed source was “From the Howling Yam himself” but I have come to not expect accuracy or precision from running coach. As I said then, this current discussion and the current shutdown revolves around $5B in funding for some physical barriers along the southern border, not a 2,000-mile wall.
You keep using the plural when Trump keeps twitting the singular. He just did it 2 hours ago:
If that’s not what he means, maybe ya better get with him and tell him he’s not getting his point across.
Do you understand why I would think this question is off-topic? I mean, we can keep discussing it if you like, I suppose, but it’s got precious-little to do with the current impasse or the $5B in funding.
It’s just maybe possible that Twitter’s 100-whatever-it-is character limit calls for some shorthand, summation, and abbreviation. Seriously, have you tried to do any research on the subject of what the President is calling for? Have you even read the links I’ve provided you?
Do you understand why we don’t buy that the $5B is for necessary updates to existing physical barriers? So yes, I’d like to keep discussing it – please answer the question.
We’re talking dozens of tweets. He’s had ample opportunity. And it’s 280 characters, “walls” is actually one less character than “a wall.”
Yes, I read the links you’ve provided me. His plan is one sentence in a slideshow, and a tweet of a picture. Right?
The presentation he gave to Congress was brief. I suppose he was afraid that Nancy’s recent penchant for getting lost would work against him if he went into more detail. Here is some more detail for you:
If you follow the link, you’ll see that this is only one aspect of a multi-faceted effort including updating inspection technology at ports of entry, hiring more BP and ICE agents, enhanced facilities and supplies to accommodate those taken into custody, and hiring more immigration judges to work through the case backlog.
But it’s probably more fun for you to pretend “his plan is one sentence”, huh?
#Buildthatwall
Sincerely,
The Tatars
The Mongols
The Manchus
Strange that Hamas didn’t endorse this message, don’t you think?
Not strange considering how the US is not in a state of war against Latin America and how the US border is only like…5 times longer than the wall in Israel.
The consensus Democratic position is no money for the wall, but some number of billions for other border security efforts.
Many Dems will have different reasons for supporting that proposal. Some see the wall as immoral. Others see it as stupid. Others don’t want land ripped away from private individuals. Still others may think the wall is environmentally unfriendly.
From what you wrote earlier, you seem to be okay with the policy position, but you get worked up in a lather that your political opponents justify their position in ways you don’t approve. My question is, why the fuck do you care?
If you and I are both going to Chicago, and you take the train and I take a car, what does it matter what route we take to get there?
Second question for you: let’s say you and I agree to volunteer at a soup kitchen. You do it to give glory to Jesus. I do it because Satan came to me at night and commanded me to work a ladle. Are you going to condemn my charitable efforts?
So, if we don’t call it a wall, Mexico doesn’t have to pay for it? Is that how this works?
Yes but in terms of the $5.7B for physical barrier (singular), what you just linked is literally only one sentence, is it not? Am I pretending that?
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/politics/chuck-schumer-nancy-pelosi-trump/index.html
In his own words, Trump is hurting people to get what he wants.