The Grail

You are correct, I was being way too kind with you on that point. You really don’t even have a significant hypothesis yet.

This an unsupported statement. You have failed to support this in several ways:

  • What, in detail, is this “knowledge system”?
  • List all the legendary sacred writings and demonstrate that there is a single idea (knowledge system) that was used to create and propagate these writings
  • Who are the millions that accept this? How have they demonstrated this acceptance?
    Until you get past this problem, there’s no point going further.

You have yet to demonstrate that there is any single myth that is behind the many sacred writings you’ve alluded to. Without that, there’s no point moving on to the details of one specific myth.

There’s nothing to verify. And what has been presented actually goes against the possibility of it being true.

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Excellent point. This thread stopped being a “Comment on Cecil’s Column” long ago.

Off to Great Debates…
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The method of transforming the human being: It is behind every past and present Eastern and Western legend based major religious system.
It is called the Great Work.
As to the technique employed, notice that all mystical traditions incorporate body centered attention-meditation-focus procedures as the central activity.
It is driven by the occult anatomy based tradition.
The inner school behind this tradition drives all the authorized and genuine outer organizations preserving and teaching the method.
Many organizations claiming an inner school connection are not so connected, and cause some confusion in the public mind about the true tradition but are incapable of interfering with the inner school work.

Maybe I should rephrase the question:

What the heck are you talking about?

It’s clear what he believes. I am even beginning to see how he thinks.

I could, at this point, do some interesting and amusing things to his mind. But the mods have previously told me not to do such things.

I am the Dean of the Inner School.

Bow down before me in sacred marriage.

Look it up. The literature is extensive.

You could try doing something interesting and amusing to your own mind: It sure needs it!

Ridicule and derision are well known symptoms of ignorance.
I can see by people like you that I have been mislead about the claimed purpose of this site.

For any of this to even have a remote chance to be taken seriously, you’d have to be able to demonstrate a verifiable occurrence/mention/description of ‘the myth of occult anatomy’ that predates the major Eastern and Western religious systems. Can you do this?

So, you have nothing?

So which came first, the mystical secret behind the religious systems or the religious systems that spawned the mystical secret?

And maatorc, can you provide anything, just anything that remotely suggests that your philosophies are not original thoughts?

If not could you at least give my mind a rest and claim your original thoughts as your own?

Read this thread.

As to the technique employed, notice that all mystical traditions incorporate body centered attention-meditation-focus procedures as the central activity.

Except that Kabbalah does no such thing. How do you explain that?

Quit sniping at each other.

EVERYONE: I have had enough nonsense watching the partisans wrestle over the presidential election; I am in no mood to babysit this sort of thing, as well.
Established posters: you already know where this is going. At some point, the baiting becomes monotonous and it is better to just walk away before you get caught in a thread with No Exit.

maatorc, you are certainly welcome to pursue your mission of evangelization, here, but I strongly suspect that you are going to find the task arduous and frustrating. Whether it is the massive conspiracy to deprive men of their foreskins, the hoaxed moon landings, the pre-set explosives at the World Trade Center, or any number of similar issues, the members of this community tend to be very skeptical of arcane and esoteric knowledge. I am pretty sure you have won no converts, as yet, and I would be tremendously surprised to discover that you found such converts on this board in the future.
You might want to consider whether pursuing this discussion on this board is really worth your time or effort.

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I have to say that despite everything Tom said being true, I have learned quite a bit from this thread. I’ve given up interacting with maatorc, but other posters seem to have encountered this brand of nonsense before. I’m curious what they can tell me about it.

When did this idea of occult anatomy develop? specifically, the pineal-pituitary-third ventricle stuff? How did they get identified with mystical experiences? Are they thought to be merely the location of important chakras (or whatever) or are they supposed to physically affect people’s soul? What would happen, under this construction, to someone whose pineal gland was removed?

Rozencreutz and Gilgamesh are Dead

1…Definitely not evangelizing, and am amazed no one here knows about it.
2…Honest officer, I Know nothing about these.
3…This is good time to stop.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by ‘attention-meditation-focus procedures’… Would prayer count? Zen meditation? Any form of religious ecstasy?
If so, that can all be readily explained by merely pointing to the biology of the practitioners – being human, they’re susceptible to ecstatic trances under certain conditions, be they deep meditation, wild dancing and repetitive rhythms, singing, or even speaking in tongues; that doesn’t point to a common mythological origin any more than the observation that all religions seem to have a certain ritualistic element. It merely means that they’ve been ‘developed’ by humans who found they are susceptible to a certain stimulus and found the reaction enjoyable.
In other words, the fact that all humans have a body is the common element here; you’d have to find stronger evidence for the omnipresence of ‘occult anatomy’.