Glad the rider is okay.
Hope the perp goes away for a good long time and loses their licence even longer.
I’ve been riding for 60 years and had a few idjits engage in road rage against me - the worst my son caught on camera but nothing as graphic as that.
Thanks for posting.
Me too!
That was brutal. By a bonafide asshole. I’m glad they caught the alleged perpetrator, a guy named in the article as Samir Pazzoto-Filho, and Samir Helio Pazzoto-Filho in another article. If he’s found guilty I hope he loses his driving privileges for a very long time.
I’ll be driving through that area in a few weeks. I might even be on that same stretch of roadway. I captured the map DD coordinates, in case they’re needed:
∘ Road rage incident ▲ 45.514, -122.7939
∘ Road rage incident ▲ 45.5084, -122.7784
As a long-time rider with over 200,000 riding miles, (only 40 years, not nearly as many as @MacDoc) there have been some altercations with car drivers, but as I rode I always had a healthy respect, and sometimes fear, of the obvious advantages that a car or vehicle have over me on my motorcycle. I also have some advantages over cars, but there aren’t many.
Once, years ago, I had a near altercation with a group of riders (pretty sure they were Hells Angels) on an interstate. I was in my car, back then a humble 2001 Honda CR-V. During the ‘situation’ it helped me a lot knowing what bikes could and could not do — namely, knowing how and where they had the advantages, and what my advantages were in my little SUV. I was ready to act assertively, or even aggressively if need be, but I did not escalate the back-and-forth and fortunately in the end, nothing came of it. But if any of those riders assaulted me then I was ready to defend myself. And my wife who was also in the car with me.
If, for example, some of those riders surrounded me and slowed down in front of me to try to get me to stop and pull over, I realized that coming to a full stop on the shoulder of the interstate with several bikers around me would result in them having a significant advantage over me, so I was determined to not have that happen. If riders in front of me slowed down, then if any riders were beside me then I was well prepared to determinedly move sideways slowly towards them to break out of their perimeter around me. Not violently and wildly initiating contact like in that video, but gently and determinedly so that any biker beside me would have to move over or they’d definitely have gentle contact initiated. But if riders around me assaulted me (e.g., broke my side mirror with their fists, or banged on my car, or smacked my windows with hard objects, or threw lead fishing weights at me) then my actions would be in kind, and my sideways motion to escape their perimeter around me would have been more assertive.
I was quickly thinking through some of these possibilities as this happened. The entire situation lasted maybe 15, 30 seconds.
I was also prepared to drive onto the smooth grass median, and even to cross it and take the interstate in the opposite direction to try and get away. But I knew that being on the grass median would give me a significant advantage in traction and stability.
As I said, fortunately nothing became of it. And I’m thankful that I’m not the kind of person to retaliate. There are always at least two sides to a story, a situation. At least two.
Anyway, that guy in the video. A bonafide asshole.
The first two episodes of Long Way Home are now streaming on Apple+.
In this season they’re doing a tour of Europe, with the twist being Ewan and Charlie are using bikes from the 70s. The support crew is in Rivians again, but they’re not prototypes, and charging issues are unlikely to be a problem.
Enjoyed that. Thanks for tip. I thought we cancelled Apple but apparently not. 
Always enjoy the pair …they are getting old like me. 
Wow, I didn’t know they had made a new series. Thanks for informing me, I’ll definitely watch it.
Like Itchy Boots they went with retro bikes and the production not so intrusive tho the 4k quality is very good.
So far a mix of camping and stays and not rushing.
My go to vLoggers are
Itchy Boots by far and away the best. She is very knowledgeable and a professional geologist so her commentary is informative. Gets along very well with people and into places I’d never go ( Yemen currently )
She’s become a very skilled rider over her 8 seasons rising around the planet.
Has a nice product line too…I’ve bought a couple of things…her hoodie is perfect as we have no heat in the house and once in a while gets down to the mid teens C
She has no support team and does ALL her own editing on the road as she travels. She’s built a huge base 1.6 million subscribers and makes a very good living from but works hard for it.
Marc Travels - riding an electric motorcycle ( a upper end Zero ) from Berlin to New Zealand. I just adore his bike. 300 km range and wicked fast.
Don’t think I’ll still be riding by the time that bike - which is $42,000 Australian comes down to the $5k I can afford.
Marc also does his own editing and I mostly enjoy his stuff.
Lavi and Ollie started as complete noobs and circumnavigated the world two up on a Vstrom 1000 - very little money and lots of enthusiasm.
Lavi has her own bike now and they are currently in India. They don’t have the riding skills Noraly ( IB) or Marc have but they have fun and I’ve enjoyed their journey. The even got married on their US trip.
Thanks @MacDoc , I’m not familiar with any motorcycle vLoggers. This is good to know and I’ll check them out. I did watch an Itchy Boots video you pointed to earlier. She’s informative.
About the crazy fast Zero electric motorcycle you mention, the company is not far from me and I test rode one of their powerful dual sports, and yes that was fast!! That torque is addicting.
This thread has been quiet for a long time. I hope that’s because everyone is out riding.
I’m trying to decide between a full face and a modular helmet, and I’d like to hear some thoughts from people who have ridden with both. I’m looking at these two helmets, which are extremely similar on a feature to feature basis.
The main pro for the modular is that it is easier to put on, and I can flip up the whole front when I’m not actually riding. The cons are $50 more and 0.4 pounds heavier. What are the pros and cons I don’t know about? Should I expect it to be louder, less safe?
Pros and cons for the full face are just the inverse of the modular. Cheaper, lighter, but less comfortable to put on and walk in.
My riding is (unfortunately) 100% commuting in good weather. I really need to start doing some fun mountain rides again.
Or should I consider something completely different? I’ve become fixated on getting something with Bluetooth built in, but I don’t know if I should just get over that. Originally I wanted the Sena Phantom, but I was waiting for reviews to come in. There are a few out, and they seem positive, but also revealed that the US version of the helmet is DOT only, not ECE 22.06, so that rules it out. One of the reviews even said the US and international versions are not identical, and that the US version is missing pieces necessary to achieve ECE 22.06 in order to save weight.
The Bluetooth issue is that the bluetooth on my current helmet can be moved to a new one, but my current helmet is designed for it to be integrated, instead of just stuck on. If my wife or kid wants to use my current helmet, it would make sense to leave the Bluetooth kit on it that integrates. My other Bluetooth kit is ancient.
I much prefer convertible helmets - easy to get on and off, easy to cross borders or go into stores, much easier for photography.
I have a Schuberth C3 which is getting past its prime
I recent scored a silly good deal on a full face that fits very well and was unused tho no box. $50 - could not resist.
Nolan N80-8 Full Face Classic Motorcycle Helmet Matt Black
Nolan N80-8 Helmet | 50% ($134.97) Off! - RevZilla
I really don’t know what’s the story behind this. It is new mint and fits like a charm thanks to my oversize cranium.
Rich older seller in premium house - looks like they were clearing stuff out but did not get the impression he was a current rider Man shrugging
Garage stuffed with the usual upper end bits, best house in the area. Very amiable couple.
Solves my aging helmet problem tho bit of a pain to get off. Good fit to put it on with the balaclava. Only had one EIM in and helmet was quiet even at 90 kph tho the usual whistle when the visor was up full. Sun visor was easy to open and comes down a long way into the visual field…not so easy to close…very stiff.
Was sweet to have a new visor…$50 is less than the cost of a new visor for C3 - and thats Australian dollar which is $30 US…truly good deal.
Won’t be so good for photography - pretty narrow FoV but both cameras now have their LCDs working at least.
I use IEMs ( In Ear Monitors ) ie ear phones for blue tooth. There are a number to choose
I had a Shoei Netotec modular helmet. The flip-up front was nice at times, but mostly I never popped it up other than when putting on or taking off the helmet. The next helmet I bought was a traditional full face and I never missed the Neotec.
By far the greatest feature my last few helmets have had is the drop down internal sun visor. That’s something I won’t go without anymore.
Many many miles with both kinds. I’m a big fan of modular helmets.
It’s easy when talking to someone to flip the helmet up to speak. It makes you more approachable since people can see your face. In the uncommon times when that is important, it really helps. Cops at traffic stops. Talking to kids. Other times too.
When wearing sunglasses it’s much easier to put the helmet on. I wear corrective lenses so that is a big plus.
You’re just going to have to decide if the extra weight and cost is worth it to you, but to me it would be.
As for safety I’ll be Captain Obvious here and say you have to, must, make sure that the modular piece is fully secured.
Are there studies out there comparing both helmet types? There probably are.
I’ve 61 years riding and only one accident that engaged my helmet - my fault for riding on two continents and opposite sides of the road…forgot to look the other way in Canada.
Broken leg and collar bone and 90 days in recovery - broadsided by a small car I turned in front of.
Don’t remember a thing.
Apparently I had a small brain bleed maybe from the helmet impacting the pavement.
Was a Shark flip up which the insurance company paid to replace. ( I did not buy another Shark for an unrelated reason.
( note that is on pavement - lots of come offs off pavement )
Now I’m 77 and always ATGATT at my age and glad I was in that case but I really don’t think gear should get in the way of enjoying riding and to some degree a full face cuts you off from the world.
As mentioned above = border crossing, cop stops, fuel stops, shopping all easier with a flip up. Also photography is much easier.
I wore a Bell Star FF race helmet early on ( 70s ) after some Bell 500s originals with horrid bubble visors and was riding all winter.
Now had lots of come offs off road and in snow but the above was the only pavement smash up…could have been worse. All the gear got replaced…never did find one of my riding boots.
Statistically only 1/3 of road riders will have any kind of a serious accident beyond the dropped bike inevitables.
A study in Australia concluded that certain types of serious accidents…the gear made little or no difference…you’d still be dead.
So there is a balance point I think and one of those is opting for flip-up helmets which have continued to get better and are certified in both and close positions.
Nearly all the majors offer flip up and year they weigh a tad more but I’ve never found weight a deciding factor…hell a Bell Star FF race helment notches in near 4lb…while a current C3 Pro flip up is 3.4 lb and I much prefer the C3 ( it has its own issues aside from over priced )
I only grabbed the unused Nolan 2xl as it fit perfectly and was super deal…$300 helmet for $50.
I’ll try it but likely drift back to the C3 and spring for the overpriced visor as a treat.
I contacted Sena to ask if the US version of the Phantom helmet is ECE22.06 or not, because all of the documentation is very ambiguous. The response I received back is the completely unhelpful
Units with DOT certification are typically purchased in the U.S., while those with ECE certification are usually purchased in Europe
Online photos show that the certification on the US helmet only says “DOT”.
I have some Sony earbuds that I use all of the time, and when I first got them I tried putting them under the helmet, but I can’t get the helmet on without knocking them out of place. I’ve tried with other wired and wireless earbuds, and none of the ones I have are slim enough, though I’ve never purposely shopped for slim ones.
Additionally, in Colorado it is illegal to drive with headphones. I don’t think it’s ever been tested in court, but the legality of helmet based systems is that they are not “headphones”, but part of the helmet. I think the likelihood of a ticket for earbuds under a helmet are extremely thin, but you never know.
This is what I worry would be my own situation. I totally see use cases for a flip up helmet, such as keeping the helmet on while interacting with people, they just aren’t use cases I encounter.
Yes, the helmets I’m considering have this. It seems to be a very common feature now. My current helmet came with a visor that turns dark in sunlight. It has gotten weak though, and doesn’t turn as dark as it used to (or my eyes got more sensitive to light).
Way back when shopping for my first helmet the advice was to avoid modular because the hinges take the place of energy absorbing material, so they were less safe. There was also the question of less strength in the face piece compared to a full face. I don’t know if that is still true, or if it was ever true.
I’m only considering ECE22.06 certified helmets, but I don’t know enough about the process to know if a modular and full face both passing means they both meet the same safety standards.
I prefer a flip-up helmet. It’s easier to put on, and on rare occasions when it’s hot out and I’m stuck at a red light I’ll flip the front up to relieve the heat a bit. If I’m riding in a group and we need to stop and discuss something then I can pull up next to the other riders and flip it open and we can hear each other much better.
My helmet is very comfortable and I’ve never found the additional weight to be an issue.
A full face helmet wouldn’t be a deal breaker but like I said I just prefer the flip-up.
Cool machine! But …
Can someone give me the name of that machine so I can google it and read something about it. I tried watching the vid but the one thing they never did in the couple minutes I could stand was identify what they were talking about.
None of the comments on YouTube discuss the bike; they’re all just praising the name of the person who made the vid. Gaah, what has the world come to!!
and
previously Eve he named his
How’s your bank balance?
Flip ups - not sure it was mentioned but drinking and snacking on the fly far easier as well as photograpy.
Not really an option on a sportbike.
Sure it is. Why not?
Getting back to Zero Motorcycles… With them near me in Scotts Valley CA, not too long ago they offered demo rides at their place and they gave away some free hats too.
I rode their dual sport, the DSR/X, and was very impressed. That instant-on torque and its acceleration was… seductive, I’ll call it. We rode in a group about 10 miles through nice mountain roads and highways.
I came away very impressed. And I now have a free hat.
But then just last week I stopped in at San Jose BMW to look at the latest boxer R bikes. They used to sell Zero Motorcycles but they didn’t have any. The salesman said they stopped selling their bikes. He was choosing his words carefully but there was clearly an ‘awkwardness’ in their relationship with Zero that they decided to terminate.