$20, just like downtown.
And the pimps and the C.H.U.D.s. . .
I’ve been playing out every scene from this thread in my head, all to the mental soundtrack of “You Must Take the A-Train…”
Oh sure. We violent perverts just don’t count.
How bigoted.
Funny that you mention the A train. I just got off of it on my way to work. Once, I had a similar experience to dart’s on the A Train. As the doors opened, I was on my way out of the train. I feel a hard smack directly on the back of my ass. As the doors shut, I looked back and saw 2 seemingly drunk middle aged women give each other a high five. I took it as a compliment.
Not to nit-pick, but isn’t an ass grab being felt down?
Ok, not funny… there is a site/blog in which New Yorkers publicly identify these groping morons.
As a man, I would hope that any woman being assaulted like this would yell out loud, so every guy on the train/bus can help make the groper immediately feel like an objectified abd abused minority.
I had my ass grabbed twice. The first time, was in a crowded line, and I was too stunned to react, like the OP.
The second time was when I was going through the gap between two sets of those glass doors. I was more prepared and turned on a dime and slapped his hand away. I shouted “Hey! Keep your fucking hands off me!” and the guy looked thoroughly stunned. Another man about to go through the doors stopped. He didn’t say anything but he looked pointedly at the grabber, who ran.
The guy who had stopped very kindly asked if I was Ok. I rolled my eyes and said “Of course - he was just a nitwit. Thank you very much, though.”
Honest, what is with these weird freaky guys? When I was in high school once a guy reached right between my legs and grabbed…I had no self-esteem back then and barely managed to keep from crying. But that was high school. And it’s not like we can turn the tables. Can you imagine the ruckus that would ensue if girls suddenly started grabbing guys in subways?
Oh, don’t get me started on gropers on the subway. The Dark Blue Line in Seoul was notorious for that. During rush hour the cars were so crowded that you literally couldn’t turn your head, and if you ever accused a guy of groping you, he’d usually take offense and snark that you were imagining things and where was he supposed to put his hands anyway when the train was so goddamn packed? Um, dude, there’s a difference between having your hands smashed against my ass against your free will, and your hands kneading my ass like it was cookie dough.
I’ve heard about the pin thing, but it sounds pretty risky - who knows what diseases you might accidentally transfer to yourself.
I said jab him with a stickpin, not share a hypodermic needle with him.
You’ve obviously never been with a guy wearing a kilt in public.
I know how it feels.
Of course you’ll have a bad impression of the subway if you only focus on the pimps and the C.H.U.D.s.
There was a harrassment (not just sexual) class at work around the time when I first joined this division. This is similar to how the instructor suggested such a situation be handled: get the attention of everyone in the immediate area. For a bonus, if so inclined, grab the offender’s hand, hold it up for everyone to see, and declare “WHAT IS THIS DOING ON MY ASS?”
I’m a big fan of the summary bitch-slap for these circumstances, myself. Or, in situations where I can’t get a solid swing in, a loud and hostile “Get your hand off my ass, you pervert”. Also, I carry a concealed assault weapon (okay, it’s a purse, but it’s a really big one and filled with books, so it’s heavy and contains sharp corners in random locations) that I’m not averse to using to smack people like Mister Grabby McGrabberhands.
As an aside, on the LIRR at least, the second option will get the grabber ejected from the train at the very next stop.* Also, his next few minutes before the next stop will be really, really embarassing and quite hostile.
*In my case, it was less of an ass-grab and more of a booby-fondling.
When this happened to me I grabbed the guys hand and held it up in the air shouting “Has any one lost this? I just found it on my ass.” He got off at the next stop.
You failed to mention if he was groping you. Or was this just a plot to get a seat on the bus? :dubious: Shame on you!
Does this happen much anymore? In old movies you saw women slapping men when they got fresh. Unfortunately, I would think there is a risk of violent retaliation or legal action these days.
I did something similar once on a crowded bus from Agra to Delhi when the guy sitting next to me was stealthily petting my ribs/tit. I took a long sharp pin out of the sewing kit in my purse, silently held it up to his face so he could see it, and folded my arms so that the point was sticking out between my fingers on the side where he was sitting. There was no more inappropriate touching during that bus ride.
And the winner is…keturah! That’s great. 
Add one more guy who is apologetic that he shares a gender with such worthless creeps, and who also favors the loud public expression of indignation response.
Believe me, the majority of us despise gropers and would gladly respond to and assist any women objecting to same.
Is this the start of a Dopers Against Gropers movement?
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What ever happened to a swift kick in the nuts? Seems like it should at least be an option.