Onions and grapes? Heresy!
It’s a fair cop.
Given the unspeakable diversity of opinions, traditions, teachings, dogma and other variation that fall under the huge umbrella of Christianity (self-proclaimed and otherwise) it’s unfair to suggest any absolutes when it comes to the nature of the trinity.
This is fair enough for my purposes because it doesn’t really matter to me where it came from. I am simply making the assertion that a well-developed identity or personality might have 3 very distinct persons with in it. Independent of one another, to a greater degree than what is often recognized. I would further assert that if these 3 personalities are not independent of one another a person may not reach their full potential!. I see a lot of beauty in a concept like this because it recognizes the importance of order in society as well as the importance of being one’s self. It is pretty easy to take God completely out of the equation. And declare myself to be a child of the universe. I am obedient to the laws of nature I have a desire to be pleasing to nature, I know when to submit to higher authorities and I know when to take charge myself, as a father I teach and I also hold my children accountable, I am responsible to my father to be a good father and create safe spaces for my family. Lastly I am a free spirit, I don’t answer to anyone or anything, This becomes the essence of who I am.
This is not very well thought out I admit but I see a concept similar to this as being useful in society.
If by “persons” you mean roles, or aspects, or anything like that, well, okay, but… (a) why does it have to be 3, specifically? and (b) that’s not what “the trinity” means as the term is used in Christian theology (as pointed out by @UDS1 and @Odesio—thanks for sending me down that particular YouTube rabbit hole, by the way), so you may be just muddying the waters by using that term for what you want to talk about.
I guess there could be more than 3 but for my purposes 3 seems to fit pretty well. I have been retired for the past 11 years. My kids are grown and doing well. I have no wife. Basically, I just have me. I an no longer running a crew or a business or anything else. It is rare that I act in the father role and even rarer that I find myself in the roll of a son as I don’t work for anyone. 95% of me gets to be creative at this stage in my life. I can easily reflect back over my life and see where it was not always at an ideal balance.
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So, once again, I’m going to state, great, if it’s a metaphor that works for you, and you have semi-independent internal roles that allow you to reach your full potential, also great.
But are you extending this to anyone else, in that we too should have semi-independent subroutines or we’re somehow less? Because that seems to be a revelation ungrounded in any evidence. Or are you indicating the Christian Trinity is supposed to work as a metaphor that everyone has 3 ( apparently 5 is right out!) such subroutines that we haven’t / don’t acknowledge?
The more I try to parse what you’ve been saying the less I understand the point.
I am sure this is my fault, communication is not one of my strong points. Let me think on it a bit more and I will try again. I am not really trying to apply it to everyone so much as I am asking readers to simply try to look at this from this particular perspective and explore it from that point forward in this conversation.
And if it’s three, would Id, Ego, and SuperEgo work just as well?
That is more or less where I started, I think the father, son and free spirit seems to be easier to apply. You could look at all things you have been as a father and break it down, you could also break down who you are as a son or what that might mean to you. But the free spirit is where we really just get to be who ever w choose to be. I would say ethics and morals would be the meeting point of all 3
But your system then excludes all those who were not fathers. Even if you throw in the mothers, it still excludes those who were never parents. That’s a lot of excluded humanity, all seemingly due to trying to conform a very nebulous concept to the ‘Holy Trinity’ of Xtianity. I’ll pass, thanks.
Are you at all interested in the actual development of the concept of the Holy Trinity?
Possibly
It doesn’t have to leave anyone out. Father role might include being a boss or a team captain, or a teacher, any number of things. Mother role is only slightly different. Son role would be a student, or employee. Just use your imagination here and you can see many ways to apply it.
Did you take a look at the link provided in the second post?
I will do it now!
But why “use imagination” to force the complexities of life to fit into your idea? Especially since Life and people are more complex and nuanced than that. If I have to use imagination to embrace your idea, I might as well embrace the whole ‘invisible sky friend’ thing.
Have you investigated the work of actual scholars in fields of psychology/sociology/environmental biology with their models? Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, or the Human interaction models for example, to name only a few. Many of these are quite well researched and based on scientific observation.
Seems you’re trying to re-invent the wheel here, and insisting the wheel must have 3 sides to it.
I don’t see where it would disagree with anything. The council most likely based their own understanding on their own human experience and something that could be relatable.I really don’t understand why that would label it a mystery
Why don’t you read it first, then critique it?