Typo, what I really meant was was the Hunter Biden side. i.e. Hunter Biden and his lawyers.
I actually have no idea, but in the case of lying on your taxes I’ve definitely heard of people going to jail for that (tax evasion or tax fraud). In the case of not filing taxes at all I’ve only heard that you have to file, pay, and get charged buckets of fines and fees. But anecdotes do not equal data, so i may be completely mistaken.
Added link to Burisma from the House document. He is now legally back to Ukraine. Mykola Zlochevsky - Wikipedia
Until and unless there’s even the slightest shred of real evidence that Joe Biden was at all involved in any of Hunter’s (accused) illegal behavior, I find myself entirely uninterested in this case. If Hunter broke the law, indict and prosecute away. I just don’t care.
Alcohol is a depressant, true? If so, alcoholics cannot buy guns.
And how many times has this federal law been used in the past, say, 10 years to prosecute someone who has not crossed state lines? For example, in Colorado since 2012, how many federal prosecutions for cannabis possession have been made?
Yes, tax evasion is pretty serious, but that isn’t just not paying taxes, it’s trying to trick the government into thinking you paid the proper amount of taxes when you didn’t.
And yes, tax evasion can result in prison time.
In the United States, tax evasion constitutes a crime that may give rise to substantial monetary penalties, imprisonment, or both. Section 7201 of the Internal Revenue Code reads, “Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution.”
The difference between that and just not paying is like the difference between not turning in a homework assignment when it’s due, and turning in a homework assignment that you paid someone else to do for you. One is going to hurt your grade, the other is cheating and could get you expelled.
If you don’t pay taxes, then the IRS will make you pay it plus interest and possibly other penalties.
In theory, you can go to prison for not filing taxes but that’s extremely rare. For every year that you don’t file your taxes, you could serve up to a year in prison. That generally doesn’t happen, and they usually only pursue criminal charges against people who are willfully avoiding paying their taxes (especially when that involves fraud). A case where, say, a guy is abusing drugs and just doesn’t pay because his life is a shambles is not something that would normally get a person incarcerated.
H&R Block talks about what will likely happen if you don’t follow tax law properly:
https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/irs/tax-responsibilities/prision-for-tax-evasion/
Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download
Alcohol and nicotine are not considered controlled substances for this purpose.
Clinical management of cannabis withdrawal - PMC.
In most instances, cannabis withdrawal is not severe and does not have a high risk of severe adverse outcomes…Because many cannabis withdrawal symptoms are not specific to cannabis, a differential diagnosis needs to determine if they are better explained by withdrawal from another substance (e.g. tobacco or alcohol) or are symptoms of a comorbid mental disorder or medical condition.
So based on your idea, smokers and drinkers should also be banned from owning a gun.
My own experience with friends is that nicotine withdrawal or an alcoholic quitting cold turkey gives symptoms many time worse than tokers who lay off.
No. That is a specific crime. No need to show intent, altho it helps.
With fraud, they often have to show intent.
In general, if you are accused of Failure to file, failure to pay or tax fraud- if you plead guilty, admit you were wrong and agree to pay- there is little danger of actual prison time*. Its when you refuse to file as income taxes are illegal or the government owes you 40 acr4es and a mule or whatever , or when you wont admit to your fraud, then prison time is gonna happen.
- Often there is a suspended sentence, and some have gotten real time by not paying or filing as promised.
This isn’t new, but I just ran across this… Some on the right were (and maybe still are) comparing Hunter Biden to Wesley Snipes.
Snipes didn’t pay taxes 3 years in a row, and when told to pay he insisted that the IRS was illegitimate and tried to claim that he was a non-resident alien and therefore didn’t have to pay anyway. He was born in the US though. So that seems like a combination of being unwilling to cooperate, and making fraudulent claims to avoid paying.
Hunter Biden failed to pay taxes 2 years in a row; his 2017 and 2018 taxes were not paid. The difference is that he did pay (late, of course) and as far as I’m aware he never lied to avoid paying, he just failed to do it.
Snipes was convicted to 4 years in prison and ended up serving 28 months after appeals. But there was a lot more going on in his case than anything we’re aware of Hunter doing.
The only part Conservatives are going to read and know as the truth is that Wesley Snipes failed to pay taxes and went to prison for a time, so these two cases are exactly alike, and Hunter Biden needs to go to prison, too! The rest of your argument and info, factual that it may be, has no bearing on this case in their eyes (“don’t bother me with facts!”).
I was just thinking how sweet it would be if Joe were to preemptively pardon Hunter, using some of nixon’s “long national nightmare” rhetoric. I’m sure Roger Stone would appreciate it 
Exactly. He kept on making ridiculous claims, and would not plead out , agree he was wrong. and agree to pay.
Maybe, sort of, but since Hunter isn’t a tobacco smoker, that one is outside the thread scope.
I say “sort of” because if they own guns and keep them at a hunting club when not hunting, and at a target shooting club when not target shooting, ownership is fine.
My problem is with keeping the gun at home.
I just want to say I stand by the Republicans on this. Pot heads should not be allowed to have guns. Do pot heads think they’re upstanding citizens like convicted, violent, felons, who deserve their gun rights?
Let’s not hijack this thread into a debate about gun control. There are already several other threads for that.
Sidenote: My observation is that you do this a lot, move a discussion into an area not being discussed within the thread you’re posting in. Please stop doing this. You’re headed for a warning for doing it.
Just heard an interesting turn of phrase on CNN’s “The Source with Kaitlin Collins” (note that I’m watching a rerun of tonight’s earlier broadcast):
“And tonight, Biden’s justice department is prosecuting … a Biden.”
Seems the kind of thing that Republicans/Trumpists would like to hear, but I’m sure that both those groups will spin this in some way to make it look as if Joe’s doing this now, but will make sure that Hunter gets off somehow. Still, I liked the turn of phrase that Kaitlin Collins used, including the dramatic pause represented by the ellipsis in the above quote.
AIUI, it was because this is the end result of 5 years of fishing by Republicans.
So the intent at least, was to agree to not contest the couple of fairly minor things they’d found if they agree we’re done.
As I say, the intent. I would need to watch a whole legal eagle or something to know how well they actually managed to craft the wording and the legality of it 
This was my thought. After all, how many GOP presidential candidates have said they’d pardon Trump if they got elected? Hell, Trump wants to pardon himself if he wins. So it’s OK for Joe to pardon his kid, right?
It would be difficult to legitimately criticize a pardon, considering the list of incorrigible criminal cohorts trump pardoned. The gun violation would be perfect for to bring more charges for someone who bought a gun for murder purposes. That’s not this.
If Hunter does go to jail, would he get Secret Service guards? That might work out a bunch of logistical questions for anyone else.