The ICE shootings in Minneapolis (1/7/2026)

It’s a small step towards Steven Miller’s plan to round up and execute all the Democrat politicians.

Let me know the real consequences of that order.

On the bright side, that is a 15-point drop from 85% approval, the largest drop in a pollical group. But the amount of MAGA spouting the utter horseshit the administration has been pushing - ‘domestic terrorist’, ‘weaponized vehicle’, ‘egged on by her wife to run over the ICE member’, etc. is truly disturbing. Particularly including this badly photoshopped ‘criminal record’ of hers going around, and implications or direct statements that she ‘deserved’ it because she was ‘woke’, ‘pro-BLM’, or ‘a lezzie’ - all of which just give the game away that they have no concern about whether her killing was lawful or not, only that she deserved it because she was on the other side of the political spectrum.

Not sure it is a nit I’m picking, but can’t they ASK you anything with no reason whatsoever? You can, of course, decline.

They’re going after Somalis in Minnesota, though. Huge brouhaha over fraud involving Somali daycares that was set up and run by a white woman initially.

Here’s a recent synching of all available video of the shooting, as done by the New York Times.

Thanks for that. I take back my prior requests for more info. I’m convinced that he was not hit in any way - other than incidentally as a result of his reaching out towards the car. His own phone showed Good smiling and clearly turning the wheel. But he didn’t feel the need to take 1 more step to the side.

Apologies that it took me a little longer to get where you already were.

Kudos for frankly updating your take on the situation. Seriously — you’re setting an excellent example.

Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. I’m pretty sure ICE and any cops can ask anyone any question any time for any reason. Arresting or searching something, though, needs a lot more. IANAL

Those ratios are pretty similar to general Republican support of Trump.

True. But still incomprehensible.

I got quite turned off some years back when the courts began holding that there was no coercion and no power imbalance between a private citizen and a heavily armed and armored cop with the ability to(tho likely not the legitimate authority) to terribly inconvenience you. Really makes you wonder what universe such judges are living in. I truly respect private citizens who stand up to LEOs’ improper requests despite the potential risk in doing so.

You mean like shoot you dead on the spot?

Yeah, that would be inconvenience.

And even if the shooter were to be proved wrong later, the only consolation (and not much of one) would be that on your tombstone, your survivors could have these words engraved:

He was in the right.

Or HE WAS DEAD RIGHT

The same kind of reality that Goldie Hawn’s character in Seems Like Old Times was living in:

Whereas most of the rest of us are somewhere between Chevy Chase and the late T.K. Carter’s characters.

Sure. That is the extreme. As we’ve seen. But I was speaking of the extensions of stop and search law. Such as, “Mind if I search your car?” “Yes, I mind.” Ok. Well, sit here by the side of the road until I get a canine unit, which then may very well give a false positive.”

I suggest that not everyone has the stones to tell a cop to pound sand when they ask for ID.

If i was at high risk of being stopped by ICE (I’m not), I would stop carrying ID.

Which means that the masked men that refuse to identify themselves throw you into a vehicle. What happens then?

Walz has activated the National Guard.

The same thing that happens if you have ID. A beating and a ride to the cages.