The infantilizing of women

[Jasmine]

@snfaulkner

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I don’t understand the purpose of this link. It is a link to the thread we are in now.

[Grey]

The post is his cite.

[ZPG_Zealot]

@Jim_Peebles

As a broad generalization, women are not significantly attracted to things about a guy they can discern from just looking at him, or a few brief interactions. They need to see him in extended and multiple social interactions with various groups of people

Speaking as a woman, you’re generalization is false.

[ZPG_Zealot]

@Jim_Peebles

You are saying he should date women who know nothing about him except that he is rich? Or hire escorts? Your solution to one unlikely problem creates a whole set of other problems. He could have time for a relationship, but not enough time to join enough clubs or whatever you want him to do, to be seen enough in a seperate environment from work to find a good relationship.

Resounding no, if he doesn’t have time to meet a woman through the means of a mainstream, Western social life he doesn’t the have time to maintain a mainstream, Western romantic relationship,

[senoy]

@Jim_Peebles

You are saying he should date women who know nothing about him except that he is rich? Or hire escorts? Your solution to one unlikely problem creates a whole set of other problems. He could have time for a relationship, but not enough time to join enough clubs or whatever you want him to do, to be seen enough in a seperate environment from work to find a good relationship.

Go to a church, it’s an hour a week on a weekend morning, there’s always socializing after and everyone comes up and introduces themselves. If he doesn’t have time to fit that in, then he doesn’t have time for a relationship.

[elbows]

Who cares, and what does it mitigate, that he’s shit at creating work life balance?

It has less than nothing to do with the issue, and offensive to all women that you believe this somehow mitigates his ‘fishing off the company peer’, in clear violation of company policy.

He knew the policy, he ignored it, and lost his job. It’s NOT complicated.

[Jane_Elliot]

@Jim_Peebles

You are saying he should date women who know nothing about him except that he is rich? Or hire escorts? Your solution to one unlikely problem creates a whole set of other problems. He could have time for a relationship, but not enough time to join enough clubs or whatever you want him to do, to be seen enough in a seperate environment from work to find a good relationship.

I have no sympathy for someone who is so busy they can’t meet someone outside of work for a relationship. It will take the same amount of time to join these clubs or whatever as it would to actually have a relationship, if not less. Relationships are time-consuming, and if you don’t have the time to find someone, you don’t have the time to date someone.

[madsircool]

@Czarcasm

Another “blame the female victim” thread. Great.

There is no victim in the OP.

[Jane_Elliot]

If no one is victimized, who do these policies actually exist?

[Bruce_Wayne]

To prevent conflicts of interest

[naita]

@Jim_Peebles

For a busy male executive, work is the only environment he is observable in this manner.

If this premise is true, and not just a poor excuse dreamed up by someone unable to accept they’ve lost the argument, then busy male executives do not have time for relationships.

Unless of course you are arguing that these company policies are unfairly preventing relationships where a busy executive gets to come home at 10, have sex with their fiancee/employee, sleep five hourse and go back to work, and the fiancee/employee gets to have a very nice apartment to keep clean for the executive.

[madsircool]

@Jane_Elliot

If no one is victimized, who do these policies actually exist?

If there were victims it would be coworkers. In this specific case I have seen no evidence of any victims.

[Buck_Godot]

@Jasmine

I don’t understand the purpose of this link. It is a link to the thread we are in now.

Its a post in a Pit thread that links to this thread. The purpose is to imply that the OP in this thread matches to the topic of the pit thread, and so direct other in this thread to a place where they might be able to more fully express their feelings regarding the OP.

[Jim_Peebles]

@naita

If this premise is true, and not just a poor excuse dreamed up by someone unable to accept they’ve lost the argument, then busy male executives do not have time for relationships.

Unless of course you are arguing that these company policies are unfairly preventing relationships where a busy executive gets to come home at 10, have sex with their fiancee/employee, sleep five hourse and go back to work, and the fiancee/employee gets to have a very nice apartment to keep clean for the executive.

The problem doesn’t have to be an amount of time. It could be a time window is bad. The Rotary Club meets from 6 to 7 on Wednesday night. He has to work then. Maybe he could do 6 to 7 on a Friday. There goes the rotary club.

[Lamoral]

Jim Peebles, maybe you’re just playing Devil’s Advocate here and I appreciate the perspective, but you’re making me think of Dutch, the detective from The Shield who fucks or attempts to fuck every woman at the police station including the widows of murder victims and the mother of a teenage serial killer, on the rationale that he doesn’t have time for a social life.

[Jim_Peebles]

@ZPG_Zealot

Resounding no, if he doesn’t have time to meet a woman through the means of a mainstream, Western social life he doesn’t the have time to maintain a mainstream, Western romantic relationship,

What’s a mainstream Western social life? Are all other styles bad?

[Jim_Peebles]

@Jacquernagy

Jim Peebles, maybe you’re just playing Devil’s Advocate here and I appreciate the perspective, but you’re making me think of Dutch, the detective from The Shield who fucks or attempts to fuck every woman at the police station including the widows of murder victims and the mother of a teenage serial killer, on the rationale that he doesn’t have time for a social life.

That’s fiction. You aren’t just worried about real bad apples, but fictional bad apples too.

[VinylTurnip]

@Flyer

This attitude infantilizes women. This is precisely the same reason why a young child is legally unable to consent to sex. This is treating women as if they were children.

Aw baby, why you gotta be so infantilized? Come on, give me a smile. I know you got one for me.

[Lamoral]

@Jim_Peebles

That’s fiction. You aren’t just worried about real bad apples, but fictional bad apples too.

Dude. I’m not really “worried” about anything, I’m just suggesting that high-powered businessmen do in fact have more free time than you seem to think.

[Jane_Elliot]

@Jim_Peebles

The problem doesn’t have to be an amount of time. It could be a time window is bad. The Rotary Club meets from 6 to 7 on Wednesday night. He has to work then. Maybe he could do 6 to 7 on a Friday. There goes the rotary club.

Pity the poor executive who isn’t smart enough to figure out what clubs meet between 6 & 7 on a Friday night.