Any source for this whatsoever? Other than Adam Jones?
It’s clear to you and a few others in Cincy. To the rest of the free world, including the NFL, it is clear that Burfict did something reprehensible. I’m all for rooting for your team, it’s what makes the NFL fun, but dude, see the light.
I hope that your team gets rid of this disgraceful player, so you don’t have to continue being a Burfict apologist. Much like a bunch of my Detroit acquaintances breathed a sigh of relief when Suh left for Miami, and they could stop pretending he was just misunderstood. Please, again, take a look at this link: Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict should be banned from the NFL - Baltimore Beatdown
Some of the highlights include multiple examples of Burfict giving ankles a twist well after the play is over. There’s no reason to do that other than to hurt players. Not included is Burfict giving Ben a little extra punch in the shoulder with his knee, again well after he brought him down, at this last game. Clean sack, followed with that little Burfict “extra”.
The Bengals aren’t as practiced and refined in their thuggery, it’s true. That’s why it was more obvious and they got penalized more for it. It’s much more on the surface and ragey for them. Whereas the Steelers have perfected dirty play into a deliberate craft.
I’d have to watch it again, but I’m not sure Burfict wanted to actually head to head murder Brown. It was a late hit - without a doubt - worthy of a penalty. He saw the ball fly by and was determined to make a hit - but it was actually going to be shoulder to shoulder, or maybe helmet to shoulder, until Brown ducked down at the very last moment which put his head in line with Burfict’s shoulder. It would’ve been a dirty hit - so I’m not defending him - I just think Burfict was seeing red and wanted to deliver some pain, not necesarily a helmet to helmet hit.
But kudos to the Steelers for being a dirty organization through and through. I mean, the coaches got involved in it just as much as the players. Pulling hair, taunting during an injury timeout, that’s some quality stuff. Their practiced, deliberate dirtiness beat and bated the Bengals hot-headed thug shit.
Don’t you Bengals fans have to go sign a petition or something (I’ve seen several about this game). Seriously…your running back fumbled trying to run the clock out and your two goons lost control and the game. That’s the end of the story. The rest just makes you look like whiny pussies.
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Stupid, arrogant, and classless post. Let me guess. You’re a Steeper fan.
A Bengals fan would certainly know classless. Like throwing bottles at Ben and yelling “I hope he’s dead” at Brown.
The difference between Shazier and Bufict/Jones is Shazier reached out to Bernard, while Jones will tell anybody who listens that Brown was faking.
As long as you’re not pretending to be any better than those fans or that your organization is any better at not hiring goons and thugs, we’re all good.
You’re kidding right? You equate some mild name calling to throwing glass at a player and wishing another dead?
No. The fans who did that are far worse than you.
Which doesn’t make you look a whole lot better. But that’s the Steeler way. If you can point out that some other teams have goons, it’s allright for you to have goons. If you can point out some dipshit fans on other teams, it’s allright for you to be dipshits. If you can point out other coaches who are assholes, it’s allright for your coaches to be assholes. The Steeler way.
(As a fan of neither team)
I don’t think Munchak intentionally grabbed Nelson’s hair. Real-time, it looked like he was trying to grab his arm with both hands to slow him down. And re-watching the video now, I still think that. His left hand was gripping play sheets, and the awkward grip caused him to grab dreadlocks instead. It was fast, and he released the hair pretty quickly. Maybe it was intentional, or maybe it wasn’t at first but once he had a grip he decided to take advantage, no one really knows for sure but him. But from my relatively neutral perspective, I don’t think it was intended.
Taken from another board from a fellow Bengals fan that’s far angrier than I am, and I don’t agree with a lot of what he says here, but he does make a few key points that the more lucid have brought up in this discussion with regards to some of the most heated elements of the Steelers/Bengals rivalry and game Saturday night…
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Those arguing that Vontaze Burfict should be cut are insane. He is the BEST LB in the entire NFL. I would even go further and argue he is actually the best player on defense in the entire NFL, and that he is clearly the most physically talented played on the entire Bengals team (AJ, Atkins etc included). He is a heat-seeking missile in the shape of a man. A ball of fire with a helmet on and the heart of the entire Bengals defense. He is exactly the kind of player that the Bengals never had during the dark decade, and is exactly the type of player the Ravens and Steelers covet so much and have won multiple Super Bowls with. If you wanted to create an NFL LB in a lab, the ideal would be Burfict.
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Make no mistake, the bullshit 3 game suspension isn’t even connected to the Antonio Brown Ginobli flop on a hit Burfict shouldn’t have even been flagged for. If the Stealers didn’t get down into FG range, the refs were instructed to do all they could to help. No, the suspension on Burfict is an attempt to:
(a) Demonize and stigmatize Burfict’s amazing play into the future and handicap the Bengals’ ability to utilize him into the playoffs every year (right now the small market Bengals keep taking one of those coveted 12 slots from a larger more financially rewarding market). Most of his flags come off of undeserved reputation and crowd reaction, not the actual offense.
(b) Attempt to stifle and stunt some of that junkyard dog killer spirit that Burfict has which makes him so dominant. They want to make him a player who thinks twice before making plays, as his greatest asset is his ability to sense what is happening and instinctually react. They are trying to “re-train” him in the way you would an attack dog to be more docile, but what makes him so great for the Bengals is the fact that he doesn’t sit and think about his next movement, he is just guided to it out of instinct. He becomes “possessed” in key moments, and makes plays as if something else is steering him to the football—that is a very special trait that most football players do not have. Very few players have that rare ability … Ray Lewis, Lawrence Taylor, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, etc — and they were all nasty head hunters who are celebrated as what makes the NFL so great. The height of historical NFL masculinity.
© The NFL is also trying to assuage the gripes and complaints from a large Steeler fan base, many of which are rural ‘blue-collar’ half-literate fuckwits and like spoiled children who are used to the breaks and rules always going their way. They believe they are supposed to be the intimidators of the NFL, the new NWA-rapping new-age“Raiders” and then all of the sudden this ‘monster’ Burfict has the nerve to show up and brutalize their players in the way they have historically always done to someone else. They hate him because he is everything they used to be and wish they still were. If he was on the Stealers the NFL Network would be running specials on how Burfict was the next Ray Lewis nearly every day.
- There are also some racial undertones at play here. If Burfict was a white guy ala Kuechly or Urlacher then those same hits would be seen as “awesome” by most of the NFL fan base. But because he is a snarling tatted-up unapologetic inarticulate black man who doesn’t give a shit what the media thinks of him … then he is branded an out of control “thug” and “hooligan” who is besmirching the reputation of the NFL and ruining the marketability of the game for families. These are exactly the kind of hits that NFL films made millions off of for decades when it was mainly white linebackers in the 60’s and 70’s crushing guys with blood dripping down their broken noses. I just keep it real, and realize that Burfict is everything that middle-class white America fears “black thugs” are … a crass low-vocabulary high-achieving don’t give a fuck nappy-headed ashy-elbow nawka with amazing talent, who is rewarded with wealth many of them could only dream of for his natural abilities. He plays a violent game better than everyone else does and enacts violence in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable because he isn’t some market-driven house negro cheesing for the camera holding up Gillette razors after every hit and giving lip service to “protecting the shield massa”.
All Bengals fans can do is play victim. Nevermind that if Bernard held onto the ball none of this fucking matters
I was routing for the Bengals in that game. I was mostly unaware of Burfict before this game, and had no opinion about him. That hit, was as improper as any I’ve seen this year.
nm…or, what Hamlet said below, only with more profanity.
Just FYI FGIE: whatever person posted that is wrong and expresses himself so moronically that you’re doing yourself a dis-service repeating it here.
It’s also the height of cowardice to throw a disclaimer “I don’t agree with a lot of this but he raises some good points” and then post it in it’s entirety. Own what you post.
Boom
Still waiting for evidence that “it’s coming out now that Brown faked his injury”.
Didn’t you hear Pacman say so? Must be true.