The Mandela Effect is plaguing me again

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Oh, you poor thing…

This might be the Mandela Effect or a shoddy memory but there are some things I wonder if I really saw.

The first involves The Honeymooners, not so much the black-and-white sitcom episodes but the later color ones that were either sketches on Gleason’s variety show or stand-alone specials. I seem to recall there was an episode/sketch in which Ralph went on strike with his fellow bus drivers and, when he wasn’t out picketing, spent more time hanging around the apartment and annoying Alice while she was doing housekeeping.

The second is about a series of sketches on SNL that featured Phil Hartman, “The Anal Retentive ___________.” In one, he was a chef, In another, he was a carpenter. Was there one where he was a gardener?

Tony Nelson. Of note, his wife Jeannie is really pretty. She dresses like she’s from the Middle East.

And so is her twin sister.

Are you asking if this happened?

I know it happened. I was just wondering if one of the sketches had him as a gardener.

Right. It’s in the article.Obviously, the sketch existed.The preview cut off on the relevant sentence.

Remember when it used to be called the “Mandala Effect”?

One thing, no one remembers when it was, “I could possibly be misremembering this.”

I’d guess many people were confusing Ann Jillian with Jill Ireland.

Talking about Moonraker in the other thread got me to read the wikipedia article. This is fascinating:

" Significant debate and discussion surrounds a scene in Moonraker, with some claiming it to potentially have been changed, subject to a supposed phenomenon called the Mandela effect. In one comedic scene of the film, the villain Jaws encounters a short blonde geeky woman, Dolly (played by Blanche Ravalec), who becomes his girlfriend. … In the scene, Jaws smiles at Dolly with his metal teeth, while she smiles back at him. Many fans of the film claim that they recall Dolly having metal braces during her smile, in what would have been a joke about both individuals possessing metal teeth…However, Ravalec wrote in 2016 that she never wore braces in the film."

I would have sworn, to this very day, that she had braces. I noticed it the first time I watched it in 1979. I thought it was a nice touch, one successful funny bit in a film with lots of funny fail.

Now I don’t know what to believe.

Yeah, this one is a big one for me. She didn’t have braces. I know, that make a great gag, but she really didn’t.

…that’s what they want you to believe!

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All scenes show her without braces, no scenes show her with braces and nobody who claims that she wore braces in the scene can back it up.
That should help you to decide what to believe.

The problem withe braces one is that people have photoshopped her with braces now to make things more frustrating.

I’m amazed how many people remember it like me. Whole websites dedicated to it. People swearing they remember it just like me, not on video but in the theater. It seems bigger than the alternate ending to Big.

I find the whole phenomenon fascinating, even without me being on the wrong side (or is it?)

More broadly, the problem is that every quote, every image and every video on the Internet is now questionable. People have never let the truth stand in the way of a good story; we’re going back to the days of memory decaying to legend decaying to myth.

And I find it likely that someone did a relatively well known parody scene around that time where the fake actress did have braces, and that is what you should be looking for.

If thousands of people say the moon is square, and have dedicated much web space to this opinion, what shape is the moon?

Here’s my Mandela Effect. I could have sworn that Peter Parker’s Aunt was Aunt Mae but in the last few years I have seen it spelt May. Am I crazy? Didn’t it used to be Mae?