…I’m seeing exactly what was written, which is what he was warned for. He wrote words: and is now claiming those words mean something other than what he wrote. The most likely explanation is the words that he posted state exactly what he meant. If the actual explanation is an unlikely one, then either he tells me what it is or he stops calling me out on it.
An observation:
You appear to be countering a subjective claim with another subjective claim and claiming your subjective claim trumps the other subjective claim.
It seems like both claims would require some data to confirm or deny.
The longer that this hijack continues, the more likely it is that this thread will be closed with the hijack as the excuse.
What does a complaint being “well-founded” have to do with it? This is the forum to complain about mod actions. If you have a complaint about a mod action, and I (or the mods) believe that it contains logical fallacies, does that mean that it is not well-founded, therefore frivolous, therefore an insult belonging in the Pit, and warnable?
Ok, then here are two more observations:
1 - Action against the OP of pit thread=seems valid
2 - Action against the OP of ATMB thread (and other actions)=seems invalid
FWIW, and I know my opinion should be taken with a huge grain of salt because I am a newbie, this board was a lot of fun for me for a while but then I started seeing a lot of stuff like the OP mentions and it really soured me on posting and spending time on the board. This board has been really helpful to me IRL; I was finally able to find a really good real estate agent because of a suggestion given to me by someone on the board for example. Don’t get me wrong, I do appreciate the board for what it is, I still lurk quite a bit but it seems as if there is some sort of board PMS that’s been going on for a while - hopefully it will end soon. Maybe it could be called SDMBPMS.
You still don’t get it. The veracity of the claim is irrelevant. Completely.
The point is, how can the question be asked? How can one ask about or comment on a poster who seems to get preferential treatment?
The answer seems to be that it can’t be done. If asked in ATMB, then it’s a personal insult. If asked (albeit as a parody) in the Pit, then it’s a criticism of Mod actions.
That is what this thread is about.
The thread is actually about the warnings given out by Marley today.
I really don’t think it is, especially because Dex specifically told people to take the complaints to the pit.
Um, yeah, because if there were consistent and coherent rules about what can be posted in each forum and what cannot, there would have been no need for warnings in the first place.
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Dear Clockwork Jackal,
You have received a warning at Straight Dope Message Board.
Reason:
Personal Insults
You said it, you knew you said it, you anticipated this, so here ya go. – Dex
Original Post:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17574623
Quote:
I agree. This is not a frivolous complaint. And if you close this thread, someone will start another. What are you going to do, ban us all? The whole damn board? You mods need to get your shit together because you look like assholes right now. And if that gets me a warning, so be it.
Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum’s rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.
All the best,
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What is wrong with the mods that they cannot take any kind of criticism without handing our warnings like candy?
What is wrong with this picture?
Have I gotten us off topic? Should I start another thread about how the mods here tend to circle their wagons? I don’t want anyone shutting the thread down because it was “gotten off topic.”
Yes, complaints about posters, but it seems (I’m not following super closely, but I did skim through the threads) that the pit OP implied something about the mods.
…the question was asked. The thread in GQ was provided as evidence.
The moderators provided evidence that they moderated Czarcasm evenly, by showing examples in other threads where Czarcasm was moderated by the moderating team.
I showed a thread in GQ, which contained ruder posts than what Czarcasm had posted, and those posts were reported, and were not actioned.
No other evidence was provided in that thread showing that Czarcasm is not moderated as other posters have been.
Of course the question can be asked. It has been asked. It has been answered. If you think that the moderators are wrong, then I’m sure they would be open for you to provide evidence that they are wrong.
…the complaint in the other thread was that Czarcasm is moderated differently. I would suggest if there is no evidence that Czarcasm is moderated differently, that there is nothing to complain about. I would imagine having a well founded complaint would be a pre-requisite to making a complaint in ATMB, otherwise it isn’t a well founded complaint, but an unfounded rant.
…and I’ll be clear again, lest people think I’m taking this off topic. I think the pit thread OP should have been warned, but the other posters didn’t do anything wrong, and the warnings were stupid, and should be rescinded.
Saying they seem like assholes probably crossed the line.
As far as today goes, the commenters shouldn’t have been warned, and warning GrandWino for complaining about being warned is particularly egregious.
Are there any mods still around to answer our questions? I’m sorry, Bear, but I’d rather appreciate hearing from an authority here at the boards than just another poster. I’m sure you understand.
Nothing wrong with it. You made an insult outside of the Pit. Moderators or not, saying someone looks like an asshole is an insult.
No, they’re all lurking at Giraffe Boards, where open discussion is still possible.