Makes you a bit queasy, huh? 
:o
What? Sure, some of those claimed letter writers, who as of now you have not cited or provided any backing for, may be pro-life. And?
Your OP did indeed seem hateful to me, but I dont see how saying that relates in any way to me being a “hateful pro-lifer.” I’m arguing against your OP, not you.
No, it doesn’t, and no, not really. A brain-dead fetus is what them doctor folks call “dead.” Removing it is not an abortion, and a doctor may use his judgement. A fetus which is non-viable for other reasons is still gonna be pretty tricky to autopsy properly after its skull has been crushed (and if the defect is genetic, it can be tested for, regardless of the method used). If the fetus is viable, and if the doctors don’t already know “what went wrong,” why are they rushing in to perform an abortion that’s probably illegal, and never protected by Roe?
OK, so now here I can make the hypocrisy statement if you’re talking about religious people who consider themselves Christian. According to the Bible:
from Bible Gateway
I’ll have to admit that I don’t know much about the Bible, but on the face of it, it seems to say that Christians should help those in prison. Of course, I’m sure there are people who will argue that it’s only talking about people in prison for religious persecution. But there’s always ways to interpret things in the Bible to make it look like it says something different than reading the face of it.
ETA: And that was post 666. Heh.
In very many cases, the names of the authors of these letters are known to me as people who have written to the Press on other occasions expressing their ostensibly “pro-life” stances, yes. And the numbers of such despicable, special case only “pro-lifers” are universally conservative. And I’m well aware of the provenance of your writings, Revenant Threshold, and the rest of your depraved allies here, such as you presented in the rest of your post…
Ah, I see. To be pro-life means ONLY that one wants to protect the lives of ONLY people who are demonstrably innocent. And, of course, according to your words, all people in jail are “convicted criminals”.
It’s a good thing these ostensibly “pro-life” Christian conservatives don’t believe in Original Sin, then.
Fucktard nimwit.
Oh, and those horrible criminals convicted of – gasp – smoking pot, they surely don’t deserve medical care!
Your words are among the most contemptible I’ve ever read on the SD. Keep up the good work.
What you said, you vile, fucktard nimwit, was that my OP lacked coherence. The applicable definition of the term coherence is:
“logical interconnection; overall sense or understandability.”
It is you who were mindlessly incoherent in your reply, not me.
Ah, if you had added the “Christian” qualifier into the OP, it might have been at least a little more understandable. I know of a couple atheists who adopt a pro-life stance, but I’m pretty sure that they would not be complaining about prisoner’s rights to health care.
So first, the stereotypical Christian fundamentalist stance (the somewhat strawman version) is pro-life and pro-capital punishment. In that sense, the prisoner would be dead so no health care would be required. So the argument only applies where this particular Christian would hold that capital punishment doesn’t apply. Then you could use the Matthew 24 argument.
As far as pro-life and pro-capital punishment are concerned, you could show contradiction if you could find evidence that some of the lives saved from abortion would likely grow up to be criminals where the capital punishment applied. Saving a life at the outset to take a life later seems pretty cruel. The contra-argument would be that the baby would have the possibility to not be a criminal. And if you could show that the odds of that happening given the environment of some of the mothers that would normally have aborted are not good, you might still be able to show cruelty. But given that most of those fundamentalist Christians believe that homosexuals can change if they chose, good luck at convincing them with genetic and environmental arguments. It seems that when it serves their argument, people’s free will is boundless.
ambushed, you’ve been around here long enough to notice that “show, don’t tell” is more than just good advice for filmmakers, novelists, and writers of short stories.
Without some cites, it’s helpful if you at least illustrate what drove you to post your rant when and how you did.
Also: WTF is up with Grand Rapids, MI? What other city with a population of nearly 200K doesn’t have a newspaper with an online presence?
ambushed, I generally agree with you on your stand on this issue, but I think that you are letting your strident style get in the way of reasonable communication.
Maybe. But I can honestly say that to the best of my knowledge, I have never met a liberal who didn’t support health care for inmates. Ignoring their health problems is inhumane. It is cruel and unusual punishment. Liberals are well-known for their support of prison reform and for their opposition to the death penalty. We don’t have to add “compassionate” to our nametags.
I think anyone who would just leave another human being to suffer – no matter how guilty – is something less than fully human himself. That is really creepy.
Why have you already decided that it’s probably illegal and not protected by Roe if you still have to ask “why” they are “rushing in to perform an abortion”? 
I am pro-life and pro-choice. I support the life and health of everyone including pregnant women and unborn babies.
Calling every. single. person who disagrees with you a fucktard nimwit really doesn’t help your case.
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What does nimwit even mean? nitwit, or dimwit, but nimwit? It’s just really annoying. Ditto on the fucktard.
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Name calling just makes it seem like you can’t think of an actual rebuttal, and just want to pick a fight. Like not having any cites when you paint with a broad brush.
And this is coming from some one who agrees that prisoners should have good health care.
While I agree with you that the OP needs to provide a site, I truly CAN believe that there are people who feel this way. I think we’ve seen them here on the boards occassionally, and certainly these types have been discussed.
I thought the OP showed evidence of plenty of “thought”, and ambushed was most careful to back up his “argument” with “facts”. He’s certainly demonstrated a “clear” link between “pro-lifers” and those who would deny “medical care” to “prisoners”, and can’t be accused of riding his pet “hobby-horse”. “:dubious:”
Cite?
I have difficulty believing that numerous people (whatever their stand on abortion rights) have been flooding the Grand Rapids newspaper with letters arguing that prison inmates deserve no medical care.
That might have been good information to put in the OP.
Huh? Numbers are conservative? Warning! Warning! Coherence Will Robinson!
The way I read it, Revenant Threshold was just showing you a POV that wouldn’t be hypocritical to such a line of thought. Stop making wild assumptions. You need to settle down a bit. Especially answering the same post multiple times. Think out your argument and write it out.
Or you could try going here.
Do you own a mirror?
What do you suppose this is, then?
Oops. Spoke a bit too soon, did we? Ah, not matter, surely you will have learned your lesson by now. Right? Right?
I don’t disagree. But I didn’t say anything about liberals here.
My circle of friends and family is pretty wide, and includes some blue-collar union guys back home. These fellows are pro-choice, though they don’t give lots of thought to the issue. And they aren’t terribly sympathetic to prisoners, being of the “hang 'em all” school of thought.
I have heard them griping about convict medical care. I didn’t give it much thought, because I figured if they were pressed they’d acknowledge a need for it, and I chalked this griping up to normal populist griping of the sort common back home.
Is this anecdotal? Sure. But I figure it is just as good as the evidence presented in the OP, so I’ll run with it.
I found a cite on an inmate death, which appears to have nothing to do with a denial of care.
Well, I’ve read the letter from April 22nd on, and if there is any group of people that Grand Rapids citizens wish to deny health care, it is their elected officials.
What’s a conservative letter? P? Q? H maybe?