Pelosi Statement on Special Counsel Indictment and Arrest of Trump Campaign Advisor Roger Stone Quoted in full - it’s a public press release, so I’d think it’s kosher to do so.
This was also released as a series of Twitter tweets, by the way.
Holy crap. She’s really breaking it down for people. I’m sure the base will claim she’s lying, but Orange Turd can’t say this is fake news. HIS FBI raised Stone’s house. HIS DOJ is approving all this.
I’m hoping for more Mueller indictments before this 3-week bullshit-temporary relief is over. Hopefully some more work gets done before the next shutdown.
I just can’t put it past Trump to demonstrate any political wisdom. He acts on pure spite frequently, motivated by his desire to be the center of attention.
I wonder, if you were to go back and interview those opposed, whether they’re still in opposition…
Trump absolutely will want to do something deeply stupid in order to get his wall. Thursday made it look like McConnell was fresh out of patience with him.
McConnell is a deeply awful person, but he’s also an expert politician. If he lets Trump know that his plays won’t be backed, Trump loses a lot of power.
That is what is weirdest about our age. Past Presidents have cared about their party’s reputation. For Trump, everything is personal psychology.
Second weirdest is that he still has a base of support.
It seems obvious this is likely but the political skill shown by Mrs Pelosi should give confidence that he would lose again so long as the Democrats follow her and follow a disciplined message not too Left, keep unity against him.
The quote from above from the article seems very good
It is clear he is easily baited and so long as opposition do not go chasing after short-term outrage du jour, and play to only the Left base, you can easily bait him into alienating the center - as well as undercutting any communication strategy. His chaos method only works well when you are baited yourselves (as obviously occurs here with the 1 million Trump threads) and lose focus.
It seems to me Mrs Pelosi played the clever game.
There are a hell of a lot of racists in America. I’m not surprised that they love him.
Trump gives snide nicknames to people he feels contempt for and wants to delegitimize. Little Marco, Low energy Jeb, etc.
His nickname for Nancy is…Nancy
The woman is running rings around the Russian asset in the white house. It’s gonna get uglier and uglier. I would, maybe feel sorry for him if he even once showed any positive human traits.
Nancy Pelosi: I moved on him like a bitch.
She owned him.
I am *really *enjoying Nancy dominating the fake tough guy.
They may well be, at least publicly, even if they ended up confirming her as Speaker in the end.
Those Dems opposed to her were mostly ‘centrists’ and conservative Dems from the more conservative districts. Basically, Blue Dogs if those still existed. Even if they personally like her, it may still play better in their districts to hold a certain distance.
Somewhere on the Dope (I can’t find it now) there was a thread right after Election Day that discussed if Pelosi should remain as Speaker or if somebody else should be her replacement. I was of the firm opinion that somebody else should take the helm; I suggested Adam Schiff.
I am extremely happy to admit that I was wrong.
Nicely said, Railer13.
I’m not surprised they love him. I am surprised how many of them there are.
Trumpy almost has to start acting tough toward Pelosi after the coverage he is getting now .
Trump’s only option is to declare a national emergency. I could be wrong, but I don’t think he has the stomach for another prolonged shutdown, and I’m not sure Republicans wouldn’t just let a bill come to the floor and notify him in advance that it’ll be veto-proof.
But using nearly a million employees incomes as leverage is pretty goddamn dumb, and it didn’t work. This country was getting to the point where the nation’s aviation system - the busiest in the world - was about to shut down. This was going to look awful to everyone, and he would have been resoundingly condemned for it, even hypocritically by people in his own party who’ve been cheering him on. On the other hand, now he’s being taken to the outhouse by right wing critics who refuse to reckon with reality.
His base loves it because, the idea that Trump’s base consists of white working class folk is fake news. Trump’s base is not highly educated, but they’re typically white, wealthy, or rural, or a combination of those. They think of federal workers as glorified welfare recipients – that is until they want their tax refund, their small business loan, or their agriculture subsidies.
You wanna know why Trump still has 30-35% of the country left? Because the economy’s not that bad, and unfortunately, there are just that many shitty, white, bigoted sociopaths who live among us, who think the country is theirs and theirs alone, and who don’t want to share the fruits of American productivity with the rest of us.
The sad part is that Trump needs his base, 'cause he’s going to be impeached and thrown in jail otherwise. He needs the crazies, and the crazies know it, which is why they are hammering him with criticism, even though the crazies on some level know that what they’re doing is destructive to the country as a whole. Again, they don’t care. They never cared. They care about themselves, their clan, their fears, their greed. Trump’s “base” is more than just deplorable; they’re the personification of shit.
Nancy has a new name for Donald: bastard in a basket.
I think he’s afwaid of her. I would be.
Nancy Pelosi will ‘cut your head off and you won’t even know you’re bleeding,’ daughter Alexandra Pelosi says
Oh, yes, I remember that thread. I spent a lot of time in it defending Pelosi.
It’s kind of fun to go back and read what everyone thought in that moment.
And yes, Railer13, I agree with JKellyMap: Nicely done. It’s admirable when someone can adjust their thinking based on a better understanding. You set a laudable example. Goodness knows we’re all wrong often enough!
I admit it: I underestimated Pelosi. I thought she and Schumer would be Trump’s punching bag, but I was wrong. I think Pelosi realized that Trump wanted a shutdown and decided “Fuck it, you want a shutdown? Okay, you can have one.” And she probably did it knowing full well that once he got into that mess, he wouldn’t have an easy retreat.