Let’s take away their fucking subsidies.
Cracker ass mother fucking SDMB moderators fuck off!
Huh?
You ok? (I’m off to see if you opened an ATMB thread on moderation issues…)
Since Huey Freeman got banned, apparently he’s decided to go the route of ritual seppuku with Mod assistance.
Well, thump has a college degree, so there! 'Course his was bought and paid for. Not like he went to class or learned anything.
Someone take away his sword, please. :rolleyes:
They did. (Mandatory cooling-off period, I believe).
Yeah, I saw. I can’t help myself. I like the guy.
Yeah, me too, but jeez Louise, he sure is excitable.
True. And he sometimes bit the hand that was trying to befriend him. Reminds me of a savvy feral cat I used to know. (I’ll see you at the Rainbow Bridge, Bigfoot. I expect you not to bite me.)
As opposed to the dumbasses with college degrees from Trump university in the Republican base?
Nancy Pelosi To GOP: A Democratic President Could Declare National Emergency On Guns
Now THIS is some first class bitch! She just hit conservatives with their greatest fear — that <gasp> the ***liberals ***will come to take their guns away! MUUUUHAHAHAHAHA!! Fuck taking the high ground. Go for those nuts girrrrrrl.
My first thought was that it was a bad move, that it would backfire and scare guns-rights people in the 2020 election from voting for a Dem, but I think that ship already has all the cargo it will ever have. Every My-gun-is-my-penis single issue voter is long past mattering, and their numbers aren’t growing these days, so what the hell.
No one cares about the 5 million or so NRA members. The issue is the other 95 Million gun owner voters.
Speaking as one of them, I welcome absolute draconian gun control in this country.
As one of which? Gun owners? You would be Ok for them to confiscate your gun without recompense?
Confiscating would likely be unconstitutional. However the constitution make no guarantees about allowing the manufacturing or public sale of guns, which could be shut down by executive order in a national emergency.
I’m with DrDeth, and with your original impulse. Pelosi was too eager to score a debating point here, and didn’t stop to consider how this could reverberate for literally years. We’ll never know for sure, but this crack could shave a point or two (enough to make a difference in many cases) off Democratic vote totals for the next several cycles. :smack:
Only if confiscation was the plan, what Nancy Pelosi said was:
And what was proposed back then?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/bipartisan-gun-control-policies-majorities/index.html
AFAIK a lot of that is still not coming up for a vote, so emergency it may be for a future Democratic president.
“Broad majorities of more than eight in 10 Republicans and Democrats (and independents who lean toward each party) support blocking people who are mentally ill and people on federal no-fly or watch lists from buying guns.”
Which the ACLU opposes. Not talking the NRA- the ACfuckingLU. And you know why? There’s no** due process**. The No Fly list is especially egregious. It takes almost nothing to be put on it, and it’s full of errors and false positives.
People who are mentally ill are already blocked.
Both of those are complete bullshit.
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-you-think-youre-no-fly-list
The public does not know how many people are on the No Fly List, and the criteria for inclusion are so broad and vague that they inevitably ensnare innocent people engaged in First Amendment-protected speech, activity, or association. The process the government has established for people on the No Fly List to challenge their blacklisting is grossly insufficient and violates the Constitution’s due process guarantee. The ACLU and its affiliate in Southern California are challenging that process in court.
*The government contends that it can place Americans on the No Fly List who have never been charged let alone convicted of a crime, on the basis of prediction that they nevertheless pose a threat (which is undefined) of conduct that the government concedes “may or may not occur.” Criteria like these guarantee a high risk of error and it is imperative that the watchlisting system include due process safeguards—which it does not. In the context of the No Fly List, for example, the government refuses to provide even Americans who know they are on the List with the full reasons for the placement, the basis for those reasons, and a hearing before a neutral decision-maker. *
Missing the point as is usual for silly gun extremists.
The point was that the draconian solutions like confiscation of guns already accured legally, was not ever in the agenda then.
BTW I agree a bit with those items you complain about as being a bit on the bullshit side, but not as you approach it there, a lot of the systems already in place are a joke as many solutions do depend on the information that states are supposed to give voluntarily to the federal government. AFAICR many states make a very bad job on their reporting, sometimes on purpose it seems.