If you would read back through the thread you would conclude that that is obviously not the case. You don’t have to be a UM slappy to have a distaste OSU.
Well I am a Wolverine, and those self imposed penalties are a huge joke. Surrendering games where the check is already cashed and two years of probation? I think they missed the whole point of self policing to show change.
Michigan was guilty of failure to oversee workouts and at least had the brains to self-impose workout and staff reductions along with the worthless probation(which the NCAA upped by a year).
I think OSU still just doesn’t understand the world is bigger than the ass kissers in the local Appleby’s.
I am prepared for some serious Fruede after the NCAA delivers the Schaden next month.
So, O.S.U. figures it gets to decide what penalties it should receive, and the athletic director has declared he’d be “shocked and disappointed” (and appeal) if the NCAA handed down any additional sanctions.
This comes off as incredible arrogance, which one can only hope the NCAA will administer a smackdown to next month.
Yeah, and if athletes at Northwestern, Indiana or any less successful non-conference schools O.S.U plays to fatten up on wins decide to sell their memorabilia, they have an equivalent chance of making money. Why, I bet there are lots of people clamoring to own rings and used sweats sold by players from the University of Akron, for instance.
I can’t begin to imagine what competitive advantage the top schools would gain if players were allowed to sell memorabilia. :dubious:
Fry Oho State. They have had a cheating coach for a long time. Tressel is as low as they come.
Which do you hate more, cheats or hypocrites? There are a lot of cheating coaches out there (the NCAA is all about cheating) but the level of hypocrisy that Tressel demonstrated is particularly disgusting. He’s Jimmy Swaggart in a sweater vest (which is also disgusting).
Tressel was both. He ran a dirty house. He did not keep tabs at all.
There is cheating, there is bending the rules and then there is a dirty program that will do anything to win.
Michigan fans are precious.
So please identify the Michigan fans. Or, admit you haven’t read through the tread.
And yes, Michigan fans are in a total state of denial, which isn’t a river in Africa.
and the beats goes on: ESPN is suing tOSU.
Ga Tech, (my alma mater) just got dinged pretty hard by the NCAA, apparently for one un-named student receiving $312 in impermissible gifts. They had to forfeit their 2009 ACC title and 4 yrs probation.
GT got hit hard because the incidents happened a short time after already dinged by incidents in the 1990s.
Which one is Tressel? He cheated before Ohio state and cheated there too. Where’s the surprise? You would think he would be better at covering his bases the second time around.
I heard on the radio that GT had violoations relating to both football and basketball.
How about the Ohio High School Football Coaches Association “honoring” Tressel by asking coaches to wear a tie and sweater vest during week 1 games? I get the feeling that OSU fans do not realize that Tressel is the entire reason their program is getting blasted. The players messed up, yes, but Tressel could have put a stop to it all right away.
Since this appears to be an omnibus cheating thread, it appears Auburn is not out of the woods yet.
Like Reggie Bush showed, the NCAA does take their time.
Yet more revelations about O.S.U. and Jim Tressel’s compliance problems that first surfaced years ago:
*"“In the course of the (2003) investigation, there were questions surrounding, among others, (redacted name’s) automobiles and cell phone use,” Geiger wrote to Tressel. “I am writing to make it clear that the University expects you and your staff to pay attention to automobiles driven by the football student-athletes and report to the Athletic Compliance Office any unusual circumstances with respect to such automobiles.”
In the last year, the NCAA and Ohio State delved into the cars owned by and loaned to star quarterback Terrelle Pryor.
Ohio’s Bureau of Motor Vehicles looked into 25 sales involving Buckeyes players and determined that the dealers received fair-market value for the cars. The bureau did not address whether the deals met NCAA standards prohibiting benefits not available to the general student population."*
The story also notes Tressel got an internal reprimand for an NCAA rules violation before he’d even coached his first game (giving a recruit an O.S.U. jersey).
Looks like NCAA rules compliance was not a top priority for either Tressel or the university.
Ohio State's Jim Tressel did 'unacceptable' job in reporting violations - ESPN ESPN has this article explaining how rules did not apply to OSU.
Interestingly, the prior athletic director (Geiger) did written evaluations on Tressel and sent him warning notices, but when Smith became the A.D., the university says he only evaluated Tressel orally (so of course no records exist). Other coaches including the basketball coach have written evaluations, but apparently football is so sanctified at O.S.U. as to be exempt from this requirement.
Maybe big-time universities should all move to this nothing-in-writing setup, as well as prohibiting coaches from having e-mail accounts that can be accessed by compliance officers and released to the media. You leave a paper trail, you can get into big trouble.
Whew, what a relief. It wasn’t looking good for awhile.
Thank Dog that the NCAA has put the blinders back on, let Tressel take the fall and restored a sense of orderly corruption in the NCAA.
I was almost beginning to believe that the NCAA had a spine.
Akron and Cleveland State are going to pay for this, dearly.
BTW, I if was the University of Southern California I would be screaming like a banshee.
And the hits just keep on coming:
Terrell, you were just too beautiful. You gave and gave and gave until there was nothing left to get.