The NFL can't tell time

I think the same thing of the CBS, ABC and FOX network’s Sunday night TV line-up. NBC gets a bye during football season.

Is this only a problem in the Eastern and Central time zones?

The networks pay an incredible amount of money to the NFL to air football games, and then recoup their costs by running commercials. It is very profitable for the networks. In order to get those exorbitant amounts of money paid, the NFL guarantees a certain amount of commercial time and play stoppages feed into that. Fitting in commercial time extends the game time.

Obviously you are not interested in why a 60-minute game (with 12 minutes between the half and shorter breaks between the 1st and 2nd qtr and 3rd and 4th qtr) takes more than 60 minutes to play. By the same token, I could not care less about the Cold Case of the week, or what is happening on The Amazing Race. CBS and the NFL have negotiated that football > regular programming.

Yes, I don’t think enough’s been made of the silly claim that an NFL game is only meant to take one hour from start to finish. There are sixty minutes of playing time, but what’s counted as playing time and what isn’t is rather rigidly laid out in the rule books. All timed games take longer than their officially laid out times (even soccer, what with injury time). Jeebus help you if you’re waiting for an extra innings baseball game to be over for your program to start.

I have watched pro football for years. I have always thought if 60 Minutes was not named 60 Minutes the CBS would have shortened the show to 30 or 45 minutes when the football games run past the alloted time. The format **60 Minutes ** can be shortened to 40 minutes or 20 minutes very easily.

But I think CBS used to get some ancillary benenfits when the games are delayed. 60 Minutes used to be one of its highest rated shows, so they got a natural lead in to their other shows. people tended not to change channels at 8:18 pm.

I don’t think anyone claimed that a football game is meant to take one hour. Besides, no other major sport takes three minutes of real time for each minute of clock time.

Hockey games have 60 minutes of clock time, and an NHL game will usually run between 2.5 to 3 hours.

How about baseball? :slight_smile:

Seriously, though, I think basketball games take about 150 television minutes for a 48 playing time minute game.

Baseball is timed?

It ought to be.

Me neither. I’d much prefer to watch football than any of the other shit that passes for programming on a Sunday evening.

But i think that, even for football fans, the game would be improved considerably by reducing the number of stoppages and delays in play. Not just because it would make the game a more exciting and sustained spectacle, but because it might mean that the night-time games finish early enough so that people on the east coast don’t have to stay up so late when they need to get up for work the next morning.

Look, i recognize that football is, for the TV stations and for the NFL, all about making money. Both groups care about the fans only insomuch as we make it possible for them to sleep in beds stuffed with cash. The NFL would happily cancel all football games if it would make more money that way, and TV stations would happily screen 24 hours of commercials a day if they thought we could be convinced to watch them.

That doesn’t mean, however, that we should just shut up and take what they feed us. Take my example of the two-minute warning. Sure, there might have been a reason for introducing the rule in the first place (a silly reason, but whatever). That reason no longer applies, though, and so there’s no need for the rule. I think it’s pretty sad that so many football fans have not only internalized the rule, but actually argue that it improves the game by rewarding “clock management.” Jesus, talk about drinking the Flavor-Aid. In what other sport do people actually look upon pointless, intentional, game-disrupting breaks in play as something to be admired? In what Orwellian world is a break, where no play occurs, actually taken by fans as a marker of good play?

Sure, good clock management might be an admirable skill, but it should be one that is demonstrated on the field, not arbitrarily helped by a pointless ad break. I’m impressed when a team marches down the field by going no-huddle, by making short passes that the receiver takes out of play, and by keeping the defense on the back foot with good play calling. I’m impressed when a defense counters this by keeping the ball in bounds, by hurrying the QB, and forcing the run. All of THAT is good clock management. Any defense of the two-minute warning is nothing more than a case of gullible fans who have been eating a shit sandwich for so long that they think it’s actually bacon.

Not sure anyone has actually made that claim. Certainly, no football fan in this thread has made that claim. But stacking up breaks that are actually detrimental to the game, just because you can and just to cram more ads in, sucks.

I feel the same way, by the way, about the fact that MLB agreed to longer breaks between half-innings in the LCS to allow FOX to shoehorn more commercials in. That’s why, in last year’s ALCS, we had a 2-0 game that took 3:25, and a 4-2 game that took 3:48. In the regular season, both of those games would likely have been over in comfortably under three hours.

Maybe the smiley face didn’t show up on your screen. It does on mine. I put it there to indicate that it was a joke.

They did in the first few years, when the show was still low-rated. They routinely had 20-minute versions of it. Once it became a top-rated show, though, CBS let it run the entire hour.

They do this, actually - which is something that most people don’t realize.

In the event that a carrier takes the ball out of bounds, the clock stops until the officials spot it, at which point the clock runs again. The exception to this is the final 2 minutes of the first half, or the final 5 minutes of the second half.

This happened last week. The Browns were up 20 to 14 against Cincinatti. Cinci scored a touchdown, giving them an easy 1 point lead, right? Except that the kick was blocked, so the game was 20-20, which had a substantial effect on the outcome of the rest of the game…