You forgot the “our political opponents are bleeding heart limp wristed francophile panty waists and our enemies will steamroll right over them, destroy our country, and impregnate our women/ our political opponents want to take away our guns, kill our babies, force us all to get gay married, and install a tyrannical socialist one world government under the unholy triumvirate of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Ellen Degeneres.”
With all that going on, it’s no wonder we can’t get a health care bill passed.
The way they did before- they would move in with their adult children.
That right there makes Social Security worth it to me, even if I never see a dime of what I put in. My parents are able to live an independent life without my (direct) support.
Tell me about it. For some reason I’ve flashed on this vision of Starving Artist sitting at my breakfast table in a worn-out plaid bathrobe, slowly eating a poached egg and bitching about how there’s nothing worth listening to on the radio since Paul Harvey kicked it.
shudder
Seriously, though, I’d rather see social security structured more like an interest-bearing retirement account. I was very late starting a 401(K), and right now I don’t see any way I could live without great hardship on SS alone.
Let me break it down for you. You have a habit of dropping “just so” bombs, you tell us things that run contrary to any reasonable understanding. Which would be ok if you could prove any of it, or bothered to try. Apparently, you think that your status as a reactionary curmudgeon exempts you from such tiresome, but customary, rituals like citation.
While I don’t doubt that your encyclopedic grasp is much admired by literally several Dopers, not all of us share that view. With all due awe, a statement like “SS is not popular” requires a bit more than your bland assertion.
How about this for a compromise? On the occasions when you cannot be bothered with citation or evidence, might you note your assertions with the acronym “WFA” for “World’s Foremost Authority”? For the common, run-of-the-mall Doper “My post is my cite!” is functional and appropriate, we award you this special distinction in deference to your service against Kaiser Bill, and the awesome respect and admiration you have accorded yourself.
That’s funny, my dentist friend takes Medicare patients specifically because the supposed “red tape” of dealing with Medicare is far less than the flaming hoops all the different insurance companies force him to jump through to get reimbursed. He has one person on his office staff to handle the Medicare contact in addition to answering phones and other office work, compared to the three people it took to deal with the insurance companies. The thing about Medicare is this: nobody gets a bonus to deny you coverage. So he did the math, and found he made more money handling Medicare when you figure in the cost of collecting that money. That, and he’s more likely to make the life of a fellow human being better on an average day instead of spending all day making somebody’s already white teeth even whiter.
The OP decided that a crazy man is the face of the Republican Party for the 21st century and Rover did the same in return…So it’s ok when the OP does it but not when Rover does it?
No body on the left thinks Obama is a messiah. That is flaming right wing rhetoric. Many lefties are not happy with how he is caving to the HC lobbyists and potentially weakening the healthcare bill. Many are unhappy with his Afghan policy. Liberals question the bank bailout and lack of accountability.
Lefties can question their leader without being called a traitor.
Actually, whether the OP thinks this mook is the face of the Republican party or not, he has become so in the eyes of many, due to his nationally-televised outburst and subsequent rambling, incoherent performance on that interview show.
So, yeah, it’s OK if the OP does it, in this specific case.
Not only that, but if we think back just a few months, we recall another guy who made an idiot of himself on TV, and actually became the face of the Republican Party- Joe the Plumber.
Yep and that’s the thing, whenever these mooks end up on the tube, they have the same MO. They don’t know the issue. They don’t know that Medicare is a government run program or don’t care as long as they get their cut. They don’t know what ‘socialism’ is. They want America to go back to the way it used to be and when asked actually what that means, they mumble something about the Constitution or spending and when reminded that they didn’t seem to mind so much about those things 8 years ago…their answer is, “it’s different, now.”
That same lack of understanding that is reflected in the town meetings themselves.
:rolleyes: He may have "become so in the eyes of many,l but each of those many is using the same stupid analysis as is the OP (and the “many”) in this thread. A bunch of faulty thinking doesn’t add up to a clear and truthful conclusion.
Here’s another way to look at this–imagine the Supreme Court had a case before it and was seriously considering overturning Roe v. Wade. Do you think all of the liberals that would be interviewed would give calm and rational responses to each questiomn and would display a deep and nuanced knowledge of the case law before and after Roe and the implications thereof? I don’t. I’m sure some would, but there would certainly be a few that would make the guy in the OP’s video look like Socrates.
