Yeah, but that wasn’t out of any sense of mercy, that was just to help her consolidate power. He was no innocent. Once he was no longer useful, and started mansplaining, he was toast.
Well there was the kid who was Victor’s partner in trying to steal Oz’s rims … and not sure Magpie quite deserved it.
I am sympathetic to how she was made into who she was, but …
Well, I’m not about to nominate her for Gotham’s Humanitarian of the Year or anything 
It’s Gotham–you have to grade on a curve.
Sophia was definitely a monster that was made and not born. You can watch everything that was innocent and good about her die inside during the flashback episode.
Yup. Pre Arkham Sofia was a completely different person. She WAS going to take over her father’s empire though.
My bet was “what a beautiful sunrise” for Vic to go, but it didn’t work the first time.
Would you be referring to Shadowhawk, by chance?
I really enjoyed that one when I was still a comic reader.
That’s the one!
I clicked on this thinking someone had dined on penguin. 
Carry on…
I am a low information fan that has been watching this here and there, in combination with reading the posts here. I just watched the last two eps, so please forgive my slow uptake and correct me if I’m misunderstanding:
Sofia is back at Arkham because Penguin framed her. She’s clearly insane now, but was she always?
Vic died at Penguin’s hand( this kicked my ass)
The Falcone and Moroni families are wiped out (though I would assume there are more of them that will come out of the woodwork)
I didn’t watch it faithfully but I sure enjoyed it. Rather than pose a bunch of individual questions, I wonder if anyone would be willing to give a short summary as to how or if this fits into accepted Batman canon, i.e. is Sofia an original character? Does she end up with an alternate personality? At the end of the series she gets a letter from Selina Kyle, which I think is Cat Woman(?)
It seems like everyone here enjoyed it, as did I, and I wonder how satisfying it was as far as meshing with established lore.
Penguins is practically chickens
No.
A lot of facets of this story (and the movie it was a spinoff from) came from a comic duology called The Long Halloween and Dark Victory including Sophia. But this version is very different from the comic story.
Was Sophia always insane? No. Her first experience in Arkham drove her insane. And yes Selina is Cat Woman. She was a character in the movie this show was based on (The Batman). She is also Sophia’s half sister (same father).
This originally was meant to be a mini series to bridge the movie The Batman with its upcoming Sequel. Colin Ferrell has said he didn’t want to do another but now I hear a second season is indeed coming eventually.
That is a great resource, thanks. I can see myself spending way too much time there.
I can understand CF not wanting to do another season but I hope he changes his mind.
Though greasier, so I’ve heard.
I don’t think it’s that he doesn’t want to do the show, it’s the makeup that is the difficult part.
From the last episode, where imprisoned Sofia gets the letter from her half-sister Selina Kyle, I thought maybe they’d now do a ‘Catwoman’ series where Sofia and Selina team up. i’d watch that-- I’m enjoying this gritty, realistic Batman universe. It out-grittys and out-reals the Nolan Batman trilogy, the former standard-bearer for gritty, real Batman universes.
Late to the party, finished the show last night.
You are right but otoh… When all those second in commands across the city murdered their bosses… I had a niggling thought… “Will Oz see Vic as the threatening second in command now?”. And indeed, that turned out to be how Oz thought…
I don’t think so at all. He saw him as someone he would get or already have an attachment to, like his mother, something he could not have again. Oz had zero thoughts about killing him until Vic said Oz was like family to him, then he thought “shit, he might be right… can’t have that”. Yeah, Vic saved him a buncha times, but having feelings for someone else also cost him.