The people that run my city are drooling idiots.

All these “little” things drive me up the wall. I try not to care, but as soon as I convince myself “Ah, its not a biggie” something else happens.

Examples:

New Years Eve 99-00: The BIGGIE. Fireworks don’t end up going off until 12:45AM. Thousands of people were standing around in -30 weather and snowing like a sonovabitch and not happy. I am giving the city the benefit of the doubt as a technical glitch, but wouldn’t you double/triple/quadruple check the equipment for the highlight of the fucking millenium night???

New Years Eve 02-03: Fireworks go off at 10PM. Why? Well, we had a some people say that they don’t want their kids to stay up late. :confused: NEWSFLASH: Its not the NEW YEAR until MIDNIGHT! New Years Eve isn’t “just for the children”. Needless to say, most of the people of our city didn’t even get to see the fucking fireworks.

The city approved rezoning and building of a massive townhouse/condo/apartment complex on previously zoned heavy commercial land. It was commercial because it is RIGHT NEXT TO THE FUCKING RAILYARD. They are already pouring home foundations about 30ft from the tracks. I am absolutely sure that everyone that buys there is going to be bitching that the “trains make noise” all night. I can already see it happening.

The city approved zoning of a residential development of about 1000 new single family houses. Problem with this? There is only 1, single lane road servicing it. And it also goes over a railway crossing at the other end of the above railyard. You should see the traffic back up at 7:30AM when everyone is trying to get to work and a train goes through or is just switching in the yard. People who live 6 blocks away can’t even get out of their driveway for 20 minutes as they’re blocked by a couple hundred cars waiting for the crossing. Of course, most residents complain to the railway and think its their fault for having trains. Needless to say the railyard has been in the same spot for 55 years and the city should never have let the zoning go through as it did with NO access improvments.

The city’s water source infrastructure needed to get overhauled a couple of years ago. When it was originally put in place (in the early 60s) it was built to accomodate approx 30K residents. We were approaching 40K. The city built new infrastructre to accomodate 100K instead of spending the (reported) extra $300K to accomodate up to 250K residents. So, in about 10 years (or less, we have a tremendous growth rate now) when we break 100K, we’ll end up spending millions then to upgrade when we could have just done it for a few hundred K a couple years back.

There is a pedestrian crossing that goes across 4 lanes of very busy, congestive traffic. However, there is no lights controlling it whatsoever (just a pedestrain “sign”), so the pedestrians are at the mercy of kind and considerate drivers (which you rarely see during rush hours). Almost every other day you see a pedestrian almost get hit or you even hear of one actually getting hit. Why hasn’t the city put in crossing lights? It’d cost money. Besides, its a signed crossing. Cars should yield. is they typical response. I’m still waiting for a law suit to force the city’s hand. This in particular has been ongoing for years.

I won’t even get started on the intersections that need turning lanes but don’t, so traffic get backed up for blocks during rush hours. And I am not talking about intersections that are years old and designed for less traffic. I am talking about new, 2 years old (or less) intersections that we’re just plain ill-concieved and congested almost from day 1.

The city is constructing a hi-way bypass so big trucks don’t have to drive “into” the city to get through it (destroys our roads, etc). Good idea. Problem? They are constructing both ends of this “bypass” right were the city “ended” 2 years ago. The city proper “grew over” this, literally weeks after they selected it as the begining and terminus of the bypass. Result? The “bypass” will still force traffic through some of the busiest parts of the city the day it is completed (where they built new shopping complexes, big box stores, etc). Better yet, they’re not making an overpass. Oh no, they are making it traffic light controlled. I can’t even imagine the mayhem that will result when 4 lanes of traffic get stopped at a light and 3/4 are turning left across the oposite lane, which is extremely busy as well.

This is all I can think of from the top of my head. I just want to vent, hence the thread.

What city?

Like my town - not as big, though. I’ll bet if you’re a developer they’re all set to give you whatever you want - spot rezoning, tax incentives, whatever - then when the overdevelopment shit hits the fan, taxpayers are on the hot seat to pay for infrastructure upgrades. With the economy as it is now, local tax/bond initiatives are even more difficult to establish. So the city has a fiscal crisis, needs new development to enhance revenue, so grants new tax breaks…

Grande Prairie. Just a small/medium city in North Central Alberta, Canada.

Well, we just had a municipal election last year. We got some new blood in office here and I hope it’ll help.

[sub](Although, I suspect it was one of their great ideas to start the midnight fireworks at 10)[/sub]

seal_clubber nailed the workings of this one cold. Once all the little pink houses got built, the developers ran like ships fleeing a sinking rat. When my taxes doubled and I couldn’t travel anywhere without it being a major ordeal, I left, too.

Were the fireworks registered?

It is my opinion that 100 hours playing SimCity should be required training for city counsel members. At the very least, it will teach them to look at the big picture. They never seem to think about how this or that decision will impact travel or taxes, for example.

They’ve done some pretty stupid things here, too. I always think to myself, “Even I know better than to do that! You can’t get away with that in SimCity.” :wink:

I live in the south, town size 50K, lotsa minimum wage jobs (at america’s largest retail giant and america’s largest chicken company - hint, hint) and it has all the liabilities and none of the benefits of an actual city (e.g., bad traffic but no culture). As the town’s infrastructure decays, the monied class builds big ugly damn mansions outside of town. (Hey - it worked for NYC…)
PS - Used to play sim city years ago. Always ended up very unpopular with citizens, even though at one point we had 4 sports stadiums, the damn ingrates.

I never realized it was like that up there. Of course my Dad doesn’t talk much about when he was working up there, and that was about 7 years ago. Insanity…

Well, considering the city puts it on themselves (although the actual fireworks themselves are usually sponsored) I’d be inclined to say yes.

That sort of cackhandedness sounds like my city authorities… maybe they’re related to the festering congregation of twathammers known as the wonderful Dublin City Council (aka “De Corpo”).

Notable cockups include the ‘Time in the Slime’ fiasco (a pre-millenium digital countdown clock on the bed of the river Liffey, that silted up almost immediately).

The Millennium Spike, (renamed the Dublin Spire), three years late and still not complete, becase someone forgot to do an Environmental Impact Assessment.

The massive one-way traffic plan, the signs for which were as complex as Linear B, didn’t comply to European standards, and were so full of heiroglyphics that “there wasn’t enough room for the English language” (yeah, right); they put 10% of them up while the Minister for Transport was away on vacation. When he got back they had to take them down.

Other ongoing grinding incompetence includes: the LUAS tram system (10 years late so far, not one line complete yet, built in the middle of the streets despite several miles of disused railway tracks, and the day it opens it will already be beyond its own capacity); the city center signposts from the airport that disappear about a mile from the city center - in fact most signage, which tends to lead you 70% of the way and then abandon you; the inability to put a decent bridge across the river; completely ambiguous, dangerous traffic lights; ad in-fucking-finitum.

Other Irish cities have got their shit together. What’s wrong with this bunch of arseflaps?

Sounds like my little town. All our government can thing about is the almighty dollar.

This used to be a nice farming area and now they’re trying to build it into a new Chicago or something. They don’t think ahead to the type problems the added traffic will cause when adding all this housing and completely unnecessary shopping centers.

If you have the $$ – SURE we’ll let you build. There’s tons of building going on, but quite a few of the factory type buildings and store fronts are empty. How about rehabbing the old downtown that is starting to resemble a slum?

The traffic congestion around here is absolutely ridiculous. I live less than 5 miles from work and it takes me 20 minutes to get there!

It just drives me NUTS!

In a warped sort of way, I’m glad I’m not alone in my misery…

Maybe I should start an Ask the Urban Planner thread. Naaah …

elmwood, AICP

Well jjimm, I’m sure you know I agree with you … though it’s looking like we might not have a Dublin City Council to kick around much longer, as it’s probably going to collapse and be replaced by a commissioner since it can’t agree on a budget.

Did you also know that there is only one thing that can disqualify candidates from eligibility for Dublin City Council? Guess which of the following it is:

a) criminal record
b) taking bribes
c) refusal to pay the bin tax

Answers on a postcard …

Hope it goes down in flames.

I also hope the disqualifying factor isn’t the one I’m thinking… :smiley: Because I would currently be ineligible (and I’m not a criminal).

Well , bernse, this is quite timely - Dread Pirate Jimbo and I are thinking of moving away from Calgary (but staying in Alberta), and I was going to ask you how your city is to live in. Guess I know now. :smiley:

You know, your post could have been written about Calgary, too. Apparently all Alberta urban planners go to the same school, and learn the same bass-ackwards way of doing things. Major roads are being built here - that should be good, right? Well, these roads are way over capacity THE DAY THEY OPEN!!! Our urban planners seem to be fond of the “reactive” method of planning, rather than the “proactive” method.

Sent you an email, Featherlou.

Be glad you dont live here.

The city in which I now live built a bypass for a semi-major state road about 35-40 years ago - then decided to let everyone and his brother build along it. :rolleyes: Umpteen chain restaurants, a couple of big box stores and two malls later…

Now an approximately 5-mile stretch has almost a dozen traffic lights. It’s gotta piss the truckers off. Our unoffical nickname is “StopLight City”