After tonight’s episode, I must say… I never realized what a tool Shapiro was.
For sure, they are giving him a “bad edit”. John Travolta is a odd looking guy, but the make up makes Shapiro look grotesque.
And Yippee, no Kardashian kids this week.
I haven’t seen last night’s episode yet. So far, I’ve been impressed with David Schwimmer as Kardashian. Curious about Kardashian- did he die thinking that OJ was innocent? He said in 1996 that the blood evidence troubled him greatly. But did he ever come around to believing he was guilty? Have his kids ever discussed this?
Has Travolta really aged that much or do the makeup people work overtime on him for every shoot? Anyway, he’s doing a good job too. He’s actually I think a bit underrated as an actor.
The rumor is that Kardashian disposed of the knife and bloody clothes.
I saw some interview with Kris Jenner where she said Robert Kardashian refused to take calls from O.J. towards the end of his battle with cancer.
Marcia Clark made a huge mistake in not trying harder for a more prosecution-friendly jury. She had plenty of evidence that black women were going to be sympathetic to O.J…
Somefact checks for last night’s episode, “100% Not Guilty”.
I loved the Ito parts and I’m really excited to see more. To me, its still shocking how the judge lost control of the case. He had all the power to make this not a spectacle but Ito’s apparent fame whoring allowed the defense to control the tone and pace of the entire thing. We couldn’t see much emotion coming from him during the case so this backstage look into what may have happened shed some new light for me on what kind of a bad fit he was. I mean, could you imagine Judge Judy letting all this go on unabated?
I remember the constant, unfair, but mesmerizing criticism of Marcia Clark. That jury focus group scene was devastating to her and probably happened like that in real life. And god, Faye Resnick, what an alluring, trashy piece of work she is. That book she wrote because a psychic told her was nuts, and then there was the TV movie though I think that came later.
A lot of the stuff actually happened. Look in my previous posts in the thread on fact check links. There’s a couple of places that is dissecting each episode. The pizza thing really happened, but it was Domino’sinstead. 95 million people did watch the chase compared to 90 million for that year’s Superbowl
Look atKardashian’s faceas the verdict was read. This is a man who knows OJ just got away with murder. I think the show portrays him as the moral center of the defense. He’s split between loyalty to his best friend and his conscience. I can’t wait to see Schwimmer’s face when the verdict is read
Pity that Kim and Fred Goldman were made into such cartoons. Hopefully Fred will have a few scenes where he’s not shouting in disbelief, and Kim will have at least one scene where her eyes are not sob-swollen.
I thought Fred was quite powerful in the episode. I only know him as the angry father trying to get justice and his speech brought some of the cartoonish aspect of this case back down to earth. In the end, 2 people are dead, brutally, everything else is just a sideshow
He was/is a tool, but in the TV show at least he’s the only one who has an open “We all know he’s guilty as hell” frankness. Kardashian, Dershowitz, Bailey, and Cochran know it as well but won’t be honest even in private.
Bailey stayed at a hotel where I worked once. He and about a dozen other attorneys were defending (unsuccessfully) a drug ring. He was easily one of the most obnoxious human beings I have ever met at any job. I remember him so loudly berating a waitress in the hotel restaurant one night that other diners got out, one saying that “If he talked to my daughter like that I’d have kicked that runt’s ass”.
That’s what I most remembered about that moment- the stunned look on Kardashian’s face. Just curious now as to why Schwimmer isn’t wearing glasses for this role.
The series seems to be pretty much true to fact so far. I had forgotten how much of a leech Resnick was, cashing in on her friend’s demise. The trial was lost in jury selection, to be sure. What was the conflict that Ito’s wife seemed to be hesitating over when she signed that conflict of interest form?
The name Mark Fuhrman gave her pause.
That’s the impression I got, but why? What’s the backstory?
She’s a cop, so presumably she’s familiar with Fuhrman’s racist profile as described by the defense team’s investigator in the previous episode.
Not that every single cop would know about him. It was her pausing at the name that implies she knows him.
Not being a trial lawyer, I can only speculate. But I wonder if its standard procedure for a lawyer never to ask if his client did it…just what facts they need to mount a defense. And if so, then Shapiro violated some lawyerly protocol.
It’s not only that she knows him…she’d been his supervisor at one point and there was bad blood. I want to say she had taken some kind of disciplinary action against him, but can’t find any cites at the moment. Have, though, found multiple cites that Fuhrman was heard on the the famous tapes badmouthing her.
Ito should never have been on this case.
Is that why she didn’t check off the name saying that she knew him? Because they both wanted Ito on the case? If I recall, there were accusations that Ito was a fame whore that wanted the spotlight. Didn’t he do an interview during the trial?
The great thing about this show is that everybody is humanized and no one so far has been villianized. Shapiro has a huge ego and very concerned about his image but he seems to be the only one of the defense lawyers who has thought about the trial in terms of whether OJ actually killed two people. Everyone else is just focused on trying to win for the sake of winning.
As a defense attorney, Shapiro is not necessarily trying to acquit his client. He’s trying to get the lightest possible sentence for them. Since Shapiro had a reputation as a settler, his strategy may be to concede jail time and look to see how much negotiation room he had in a plea bargain. I’d bet defense attorneys get the response “Yes, but…” all the time.
I feel sorry for the Goldman family. Seems to me like Ron Goldman was just marginally involved and he got murdered.
He seemed to have a lot going for him in his life and this part time job as a waiter was just a tiny thing he did. But yet … it is the thing that got him murdered. And it looks as if the murderer just got away with it. Very sad.
I think any feeling human being has to have some compassion for the father. You can see that he is just devestated. He was expecting great things from his son and then … this shit happens.
With the exception of some exaggerated performances (like the none too suble portrayal of Faye Resnick, the Goldmans and the Bob Shapiro cartoon) I think this series is amazingly well done. Especially Marcia Clark, Chris Darden and Johnny Cochran. They’re all bang on!
After it’s all over, if anyone requires a satisfying palette cleanser, I recommend Dan Petrocelli’s account of the civil trial, Triumph of Justice.