There are more likely explanations that don’t involve “capabilities beyond anything known.”
Like The Mad Scientists’ Club?
Stranger
Hey, he was on The Joe Rogan Experience #2288 so clearly, he can’t be a nutcase. Actually, I don’t know for sure, I’m certainly not going through the trouble of watching 2 1/2 hours of Joe Rogan and then scrubbing it from my YouTube history. And that’s not even mentioning how impossible it would be to scrub it from my mind!
That’s probably the most true statement he makes, though unlikely he understands what it says.
“The Phenomenon” is certainly about human experience. It’s a meta-conglomeration of humanity’s mental and perception functions when subjected to stress, whether physical or emotional or pharmalogical.
Calling it “the Phenomenon” is an act of forced concatenation of any and all of humanity’s confusing, conflicting, and just plain not understood at the time experiences that have been recorded in some manner. It is taking every random experience and attempting to attribute them all to one single cause.
It’s like looking at a patient with a brain tumor, a patient with diabetes, a patient with irritable bowel, and a patient with a broken leg and attributing them to one, single mystical cause we don’t understand because all those conditions look different so we can’t see how they are connected, but they must be.
That just spawns all sorts of questions about what the proposed meta- consciousness is and where it comes from and why it is interested in is humans and how it functions over millennia and how it is nudging human consciousness and what it hopes to achieve and what the mechanism is that allows it to affect humans and…
Or is the answer “God did it”?
Everyone knows the Greys are actually mere automatons, an artificial, proxy species created by the Mi-Go for use to interact with humans on their behalf. They were created deliberately to resemble humans, lulling them into believing they were dealing with an alien intelligence they could understand rather than the multi-dimensional minds playing 6 dimensional chess on a non-Euclidian board.
I think I saw Dr. Leir’s work on a television show at some point. He was showing a photo of something he had removed from under the skin of a patient, not on his/her foot, but her forearm I think. The good doctor explained that he found this object detached from anything else under the skin of his patient. Another doctor looked at the photo and opined that it might just be a fatty bit of tissue, the type of which might be floating free beneath anyone’s skin, and the doctor might have performed an unnecessary surgery to extract it.
Circa 1984 in Munich, Germany, my sister and I were looking at the back window of our apartment sometime between 10:00 and midnight when suddenly an object flew over the roof and disappeared into the woods out back. I don’t think the object was spinning, but there were rotating lights of red, yellow, and maybe green. Neither one of us have any idea what the hell it was. It wasn’t large enough to be a plane or a helicopter and we didn’t have drones in 1982. Or did we?
Eventually the aliens will decide that they can reveal themselves to humans. They will land one of their spaceships next to the U.N. building in New York. One of the aliens will come out of the spaceship and walk into the building. That alien will speak to the General Assembly and will say that they have come to serve mankind. The alien will drop a book on the podium and return to the spaceship.
I think it’ll go more like this:
It’s not a Joe Rogan link
The doctor who saw the photo of it is free to explain why one of the pieces removed had U-236 in it considering that there is virtually no naturally occurring U-236 on earth, and when it does exist it is mixed in with far far more abundant U-238 and U-235. There may only be 30kg of naturally occurring U-236 on earth.
https://www.geotraces.org/the-potential-of-anthropogenic-236-uranium/
236-Uranium (236U) is present on Earth due to natural and anthropogenic production. However, the estimated inventory of anthropogenic 236U (106 kg) largely exceeds the natural one (30 kg). Releasing even a tiny fraction of this artificial isotope would drastically change the environmental 236U/238U ratio and therefore make this ratio a useful isotopic marker to trace such anthropogenic releases and to study seawater transport and mixing processes in the ocean.
Maybe not a priori, but post priori, absolutely. If I’ve always been honest with you, and then tomorrow I tell you I saw Dick Cheney sneaking out of my bedroom window wearing a pink tutu and with his mouth full of daffodils, you don’t need any previous reason to doubt me.
You may not know me to be a liar. But you know the world is full of liars, and it’s full of people realizing their long-term acquaintance is a liar, or is suffering from delusions. You also have a sense of how likely Cheney is to chaw daffodils. Based on what you know, you can predict what’s going on.
You know the world is full of people making a false claim to seeing UFOs, and to seeing all sorts of stuff that ain’t there. An explanation for your friend’s story that relies on what you already know, rather than on something as remarkable as intergalactic visitors who have nothing better to do than play pranks on kids, pays homage to Occam’s Razor.
I was just thinking about this question this morning. However tempting it may be, it’s bad math to think about probability using a sample size of one. We have absolutely no idea what life looks like on any planet except our own. It may be that everything out there looks like crabs. But it also may be that sentient, tech-using life tends to evolve into a bipedal form with multiple digits on its four limbs.
We don’t have anywhere near enough information to make an informed prediction.
Could still have been a plane or helicopter.
We’re really bad at estimating size, speed, and distance in the sky, especially at night.
Even airline pilots who have directly personal experience and ought to know better have sometimes made the mistake of saying that they saw lights in the night sky that could not have been commercial airliners (too big/small, too fast/slow, etc) only to have been shown direct evidence they really saw…commercial airliners.
Actually, NATO had them since the 50s
It is true that with a sample size of 1 we can’t make predictions.
But life on earth has been around for 4 billion years. Humans and chimpanzees only separated 6 million years ago, so we were the same species for 99.9% of our evolutionary history. Despite us only being separate species for 0.1% of our history, human physiology has more in common with what people describe as extra terrestrials than it does with chimpanzees.
Even things like our knees and elbows, the reason we only have 1 set of knees and elbows, and the reason they bend they way they did is because all land animals evolved from the same species of fish about 400 million years ago.
I guess its possible that the physiology of an animal necessary to engage in technology is the same, but what about the placement of sensory organs? There do not need to be 2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 nostrils and one mouth all on the top of the body, all places in the same symmetrical configuration of eyes on top, nostrils in the middle, mouth on bottom, and ears on the sides. A creature could easily evolve with a different numbers of sensory organs for sight, sound, smell and taste, and also where on their body they are, or what shape they take could be totally different.
Why should we?
If we can’t trust such illustrious sources as the Un-X Network or “pioneering alien implant researcher and surgeon, Dr. Roger Leir” then I don’t know who any of us can trust. I’m sure scientist around the world are waiting with bated breath for Leir’s discoveries which are both “earth shattering and prove beyond the shadow of doubt that these objects are non-terrestrial in origin.” I couldn’t help notice Leir didn’t cite any sources nor offer his findings for peer review. I do not consider him a trustworthy source at this time.
Which is a very rational response. Like I mentioned above, if this stuff was verifiable it needed to be published in a peer reviewed journal.
These are all very reasonable speculations. But without the evidence to back it up, I think intellectual humility is the best option for all of us.
Yep.
The only thing we should take seriously about Jacques Vallée is his desire to take someone’s money. He’s seriously interested in that part. Anything else? Nope.
For the very same reason you should take seriously my claim that Santa Claus is real.
Well, something real is sure influencing all those parents around the western world to go nuts buying crap for kids and one another.
Gotta be Santa! It stands to reason!