The pigeon commercial for some insurance company

That’s that Benjamin guy who voices Archer. I know that.

One of the ads, he says he has homing pigeon in his DNA. And the other pigeon(don’t know who voices him) says he should get a smart watch for GPS, because the he asks him which direction is north and Archer voiced pigeon points up.

Why is up not north? Isn’t this a big ball we live on? Falling thru space at very fast speeds, with no brakes…wait…I just freaked me out. I gotta take deep breaths.

Ok. I’m back. Whew.

Any way, up is up. Up is north. On the map the north pole is north. The north pole is up. On the big ball that is up. On the map the South pole is south or down.

We won’t discuss east and west.

He also voices Bob from Bobs Burgers.

Beck, do you actually think straight up into the sky is north?

Well kinda, sorta. It’s according to how I’m placed on this ball. (And if I stay planted firmly);:wink:

So if you were at the North pole…

No. You’re projecting your frame of reference on a model (a globe), rather than using that model’s frame of reference. Looking at a globe, “up”, from the reference of being on that globe, is “out”. “Down” is “in”. South/North is simply “towards the South/North Pole”.

What if I laying down? Huh? Ha! Just answer that one.

And many, many others. All Exactly The Same.

Nice work if you can get it.

I know lots of things that are up that are in the parlance of going north. And many things going down that are south.

:smirk: I bet you can think of some.

But what if you’re in Australia laying down? Up/north would be completely different - almost opposite.

Aaaaacccckkk!

Think about this: Outside of a very small circle around the pole, if you are standing on the planet and want to point at the pole — not north, but at the pole itself — you will need to point toward the ground, because the horizon falls away and there is planet between you and the pole.

Oh, that clarified it.
Yep. I can sleep now.

Why, thank you very much.:upside_down_face:

Jon Benjamin has taken the spot formerly filled by Lorenzo Music - “One Voice Guy Who Gets Lots of Gigs.”

Did you know the moon looks ‘upside down’ from the southern hemisphere? It’s one of the reasons I haven’t pursued monetizing the ad space.

Now yer just trying to fuzz up my already overtaxed brain. :exploding_head:

Here, let’s fuzz it a bit further.

First, some history on the issue:

Some of the very earliest Egyptian maps show the south as up, presumably equating the Nile’s northward flow with the force of gravity. And there was a long stretch in the medieval era when most European maps were drawn with the east on the top. If there was any doubt about this move’s religious significance, they illuminated it with [their maps’ pious illustrations](, whether of Adam and Eve or Christ enthroned. In the same period, Arab map makers often [drew maps] with the [south facing up], possibly because this was how the Chinese did it.

And then some different perspective on projections:

I’m dealing with the fact I got a notification from Sonic, they now have Peanut butter/Bacon milkshakes. Which caused the North Pole to shift a degree or two one dang direction(down) or another.

This problem with pigeons, up or down, north or south, the Mason-Dixon line, social injustices of the world and climate change means so much nothing now. So so much.

:scream: