It is a straight line from the police believing this kind of stuff to the killing of George Floyd.
The marching playing out its final set is not loitering.
There’s no “final set”. The whistle plays, the fireworks go off, and they play the fight song or another ditty if the outcome wasn’t triumphant. You don’t sit around playing encores after that, you’re packing it up and packing it in.
I will repeat for the umpteenth time, why did the home director find it so difficult to wrap his show when the away director had already stood down, and police had already told him multiple times to quit? He wanted to be the main character, and he got his wish.
I mentioned that as an anology to something Beck wrote. I’ve been arguing the facts that the police behavior was based only on their wish to go home.
Whats absurd is using violence because the officers felt their egos get threatened by being told to wait a minute.
Well then, I’m glad you aren’t a cop…
I worked at the Band concessions at every ball game my 4 kids were at.
Police had to stay on scene with us after the game. We had to clean the concession stand. Leave door unlocked to go back and forth and there was lots and lots of money and goods that could be taken from us. It was a safety issue.
There were always people milling around. Some kids waiting on rides. Some people up to nefarious actions. Administration couldn’t leave til we were done.
The maintenance crews would be cleaning and checking locks. It’s not a pleasant scene.
Of course they wanted any extra persons gone. As soon as possible.
The bands were taking turns. The other director had finished his song.
Safety? How was he standing in the way of safety?
And you know the rules of this stadium, how exactly?
Did you miss the part where the stands were empty?
Then why did they turn out the lights?
Yeah, but that’s not a fact, that’s your personal take on some dialog. Here’s the more accurate take: “You’re costing the city money by loitering, and you’re going to get billed for it.”
Which again, is entirely your guess about what the officers thought and felt, when common sense indicates that they’re just trying to do their job and keep the public safe by closing out an after-dark event after it was finished.
It’s not a freaking Grateful Dead concert. Buzzer goes off, you go home. Repeating for the umpteenth time, the away team didn’t seem to have any confusion about routine and customary behavior in this situation, and amazingly enough their director wasn’t detained.
Because the two directors agreed that each band would play three songs after the game. The visiting band had already finished their third song, and the home band was playing theirs.
I’ve been to about a zillion school sports events, both as player, spectator, and conductor, so I know a bit about how what’s expected.
It sounds like the bands were taking turns and the other band was already done when the police rode in on blazing saddles. So that’s kinda irrelevant.
It’s routine for people to leave as the bands play. I am failing to connect the dots between “it’s time to clear the stands” and “we need the band to stop this exact instant”
But that’s why this is in the news. If the police had quietly arrested some random band leader without attacking him, we would never have heard of the incident, and probably wouldn’t care if we had. And he’d probably have been processed and have a court date where the whole thing would have been thrown out when the arresting officer didn’t bother to show up. That’s how these things generally play out. If the police had just quietly stood there around him, insisting that they were arresting him for disorderly conduct until he tired of arguing (or if he’d actually become violent) we wouldn’t be arguing today.
Without obeying authority, we wouldn’t have strip searches in McDonalds bathrooms
I would like to know that as well. The Stadium lights would go out at our highschool by some administration person unlocking a door and flipping a lever. They did it after the maintenance crew were done in the stands. And all gates locked.
The evidence shows otherwise.
No, that’s not documented. Someone upthread suggested maybe they saw something where someone said maybe this was the case. Nobody has any idea if it happened, again people are engaging with what they wish was true instead of what’s in evidence.
I don’t trust YouTube videos as evidence. Period.