FDR, Kennedy, and Johnson didn’t want southern votes?
One of them is leading in the polls. The others are … not.
Meaning what? On channels you don’t watch? Somehow you know about them.
Repetition does not create truth.
The evidence does point to that conclusion.
You have chosen to align yourself with a party that appeals to bigotry as a core belief. Either embrace it or reject it, but do not deny it.
By who? And why not also involve white voters? Why try to keep those appeals low key, out of sight of white voters? Wouldn’t Democrats want to enlist the non-racist white voters, who presumably are the vast majority?
Why do you think Democrats might not want white voters to be aware of those ads?
- How do *you *know about them? and 2. Do you understand what target marketing is?
Are you saying that if white voters had been widely exposed to such ads that it would have been fine?
Sure. A waste of money, though.
Now you tell us why those ads were credible.
As a friend of mine said when the Tea Party first showed up, “You can’t spend 30 years dry-humping the crazy and then act surprised when the crazy wants to fuck.”
They weren’t. The GOP gained a few points among black voters between 2012 and 2014, and gained 10 among Latinos.
In case you hadn’t noticed, the GOP has been courting white racists since the Nixon Southern Strategy. By pressing voter ID laws, by reducing voting hours, by purging voter lists, by inequitable distribution of voting machines, the Republicans have instigated a race war. Nobody is trying to hide this from open-minded whites.
Yes, they wanted southern votes, but they were also willing to throw away those votes when it meant doing the right thing. Johnson himself famously said this when he said that Democrats would loose the South for a generation regarding his support for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But he still supported it. Their was even a time when Republican presidents would do the right thing at the expense of votes. I could cite Eisenhower sending federal troops to Little Rock in 1957 to forcibly integrate their public schools. But now it seems Republican candidates are content to build on Nixon’s southern strategy, whether it be GHWB with the Willie Horton adds or Donald Trump today, they look for ways to appeal to the racist White vote.
WEll, like I said, if Democrats come out and say they don’t want the votes of people who support voter ID and voter purges, then this election won’t be very suspenseful.
Then what’s your complaint?
That’s completely wrong, but I’ve had that argument too many times. So I’ll just point out that it’s not the same as telling racist voters that you don’t want their votes. It’s doing what I suggested, appealing to them on other issues. THat’s what FDR and Kennedy did, and it’s what Republicans have always done. Trump excepted, of course.
Translation: “Yeah, I know, but I refuse to admit it to you.”
I’m curious to see what the reaction is to Trumps comments about McCain. I believe all the candidates have denounced the comments, but poll numbers haven’t come in yet to see how the voters feel. Looking on Breitbart comments, opinion seems divided, but also there are plenty of non-conservative people commenting, and also trolls, so it’s hard to get a good read.
If Trump can say those things about McCain and it doesn’t affect his popularity or poll numbers, I would think the other candidates definitely have cause to worry.
It’s a safe excuse to attack Trump, possibly forcing him out of the race and freeing his strong nativist support base, but without alienating them in the process - the rest of them would like to have those voters for themselves.
Unfortunately for the GOP, they aren’t actually working for a sorcerer who knows how to make the brooms stop hauling water.
It isn’t my argument. As I noted, it was Lyndon Johnson himself who realized what the results of his actions would be and predicted that the Democratic Party would no longer be relevant in the South. It’s taken some time, but with the losses of Mark Pryor and Mary Landrieu in the 2014 election, it looks like he was right, and the South is now solidly Republican.
As for those “other issues”, Democrats do tend to support programs that help poor people, and it just so happens that a lot of the people who vote Republican due to racial prejudice are also poor. That doesn’t mean Democrats are trying to appeal to racist White people by some kind of back door, it means that they are trying to help poor people.
I don’t think this will hurt T-Rump at all. Let’s face it, a significant part of the Republican base is racism and xenophobia. Trump has established serious bona fides with those voters due to his anti-Mexico ranting. Those voters don’t give two shits about McCain, they think he lost because he wasn’t conservative enough and if his image takes a pounding, well so what? What Republicans adore is cocksureness, the ability to be wrong at the top of your lungs. Trump has it in spades. I just can’t see the base deserting a True Believer for the sake of McCain.