DrDeth, two things.
Bringing Bricker into this is not best practices. This is a mod note to not do anything similar in the future.
We are NOT going to see you go around and around again about the definition of impeachment. Doing so in the future - in any thread not specifically about the definition of the word - may earn you warnings. Stop it.
Trump critics like myself have been wrong from the start about Trump, so I’m not willing to take that bet. Trump could serve a full 4 years, but I seriously doubt he does an additional 4 beyond that. He has been so rocked with scandal, the US economy is overdue for a recession, the health bill takes health insurance away from 24 million to fund tax cuts for the rich, he has worse approval rating within 3 months than many presidents get at any point in 8 years, etc. Trump barely won in 2016, I don’t see him building a coalition to win in 2020. But again, I’ve been wrong from the start. Maybe white resentment combined with voter suppression push him over the edge in 2020, who knows.
I think a big part of why the GOP doesn’t impeach is because Trump has 80-90% support from the GOP base. If the GOP turns on him, then those senators and representatives may face a primary in their home district, or maybe in the general election there is a fear that the GOP base won’t vote for them and will stay home or vote third party, giving the general election to the democrat.
The only way I see the GOP congress impeaching Trump is if the GOP voters start saying they will punish GOP congressmen for refusing to impeach. I don’t see that happening.
He’s got about 119 days under his belt out of 1460 days or so. That’s about an 8% number of days and many, many *y-u-u-u-g-e * problems. Even when the Mafia owned Las Vegas slots(the poorest payoff in a casino) in the 1940s, you had a better chance. Would you really take a bet on that?
The odds that he is impeached aren’t as high as I would like, but that is ridiculous. The fact that he’s messed up so bad so early is exactly why the odds are higher than that. Because the more he messes up, the more it becomes a better solution for Republicans to get rid of him and do damage control.
And that’s all this boils down to–whether Republicans think it’s better for them with or without him. It clearly is not about what’s best for the country, as, even if you had doubts before, Trump has shown he’s awful for the country.
This.
Nixon trusted Goldwater, etc. Trump probably doesn’t trust McConnell/Ryan.
Not even if he’s removed feet first?
I’m serious about this. He’s 70 years old, overweight, has poor eating habits and gets little exercise. I think he’s finding being POTUS to be much more stressful that he ever thought. I know he gets some of the best healthcare possible, but I still think a heart attack or stroke is possible.
I’d love to see Trump gone, but alas, he’s not going anywhere.
There’s no way a GOP controlled House will impeach him, and the Democrats won’t take over the House in 2018.
And fantasies aside, no one is going to invoke the 25th amendment.
Trump is a creep who should never have been nominated or elected. But he was, and we’re stuck with him at LEAST until January 20, 2021.
I don’t think it’s a matter of “trust,” exactly. It’s a matter or whether or not you can accept reality. The GOP Congressional leadership came to Nixon and said “Resign or we will impeach you” so Nixon said “okay” because like 44 out of 45 people who’ve been President, Nixon was going by the presumption that reality was based on facts constructed from evidence he could perceive. Trump’s reality is what we wants it to be, and he gets angry when people challenge that.