Er… England has vastly lower homicide rate that the US.
Reading skills. I said “violent crime.”
And as long as we’re making statements that blindly ignore each others’ points, Mexico, despite very strict gun control, has a vastly higher homicide rate than the United States.
Are you going to answer my question, or keep dodging it by miscontruing my posts?
Thank you for confessing that you knew that Lott was unreliable and were desperately hoping we were all ignorant.
If you wish to embarrass or anger me, you’ll have to come up with better arguments.
As to your question, well I’ll take you at your word that you’re asking me an honest question so I’ll answer honestly.
Yes, I think you’d be vastly safer if guns were removed from your prescence.
I find the persona you’re projecting highly improbable for a number of reasons and think you’re far younger and vastly more obese and far more likely to be living in your mother’s basement than you’re trying to pretend and if you had access to guns would be far more likely to accidentally shoot yourself while cleaning the gun than you would be confronted by a mugger or home invader.
Thank you to confessing to using weasel words and admitting that England and the UK have a vastly higher homicide rate.
That was very big of you.
LOL. Game over.
Thanks for answering the question, though.
“I find the persona you’re projecting highly improbable for a number of reasons and think you’re far younger and vastly more obese and far more likely to be living in your mother’s basement than you’re trying to pretend and if you had access to guns would be far more likely to accidentally shoot yourself while cleaning the gun than you would be confronted by a mugger or home invader.”
Nice edit, Ibn Warraq. Too slow, though.
For the record, I’m 47 years old, weigh about 160 (10 pounds more than my best weight), and live in a nice house in a subdivision. And so far, the accidental shootings to home inavder ratio for me is 0:0.
LOL. Game over.
“LOL”?
Rather than behaving like a mature, expert qualified gun owner you seem to be acting like something else?
Also, what did you mean by the phrase “game over”?
Were you under the impression that you’d somehow tricked or manipulated me into breaking GD rules and now you’re sitting back chortling while waiting for the mods to punish me?
You asked a question and I answered it honestly. I certainly wouldn’t have made the comments I did had you not asked me the question worded the way you did. Obviously, I could have just answered “yes” but such an incomplete answer wouldn’t have been fair to you or the other readers of this thread.
Jeez, Chick, you are just slaughtering everyone in your path! Maybe take a little break, give everybody else time to get over the defeat that you have rendered. Dude, you totally won the internet already, you can rest on your Stan Laurels.
I mean, if you never posted another word, it’ll be a long time before we get over the beating we got from such a luminous intellect. Abject humiliation like that, it takes a while to get over it. I mean,dude, you have totally crushed. Take a bow, and a break. You deserve it. So do we.
“I find the persona you’re projecting highly improbable for a number of reasons and think you’re far younger and vastly more obese and far more likely to be living in your mother’s basement than you’re trying to pretend and if you had access to guns would be far more likely to accidentally shoot yourself while cleaning the gun than you would be confronted by a mugger or home invader.”
Nice edit, Ibn Warraq. Too slow, though.
For the record, I’m 47 years old, weigh about 160 (10 pounds more than my best weight), and live in a nice house in a subdivision. And so far, the accidental shootings to home inavder ratio for me is 0:0.
What “edit”?
I didn’t edit that post though you’ve edited this post.
What was the unedited version if this one?
Thanks
Jeez, Chick, you are just slaughtering everyone in your path! Maybe take a little break, give everybody else time to get over the defeat that you have rendered. Dude, you totally won the internet already, you can rest on your Stan Laurels.
I mean, if you never posted another word, it’ll be a long time before we get over the beating we got from such a luminous intellect. Abject humiliation like that, it takes a while to get over it. I mean,dude, you have totally crushed. Take a bow, and a break. You deserve it. So do we.
Now, now, there’s no reason to ridicule him. Lots of people who are 47 put “LOL” in their posts.
Er…well, he’s the only one I’ve ever come across, but I’m sure there are others.
After being repeatedly insulted, called a liar, obese, living in my mother’s basement, and challenged about my “tone” by a supposedly fair moderator, I’m done with this thread, my opinion of this board considerably diminshed. I’ll leave you with this:
I believe this: Able-bodied men have a duty to defend themselves, their families, and the weaker members of society from violent attack, using the most effective means possible. Voluntarily outsourcing this duty to others is about is a dereliction of this duty. I understand that there are those that lack the fortitude to do what a peaceful society requires, in order to remain peaceful. I do no fault you for this, all men are not born with the same abilities or mental make-up. Those that can will cover for those that can’t. What I do fault you for is trying to defend your handicap by belittling those that are not so encumbered. Please, wallow silently in your inabilities, but don’t insult the men that are unencumbered. It grows tiresome.
Be well.
What “edit”?
I didn’t edit that post though you’ve edited this post.
What was the unedited version if this one?
Thanks
That is a flat-out lie. I quoted your post as posted.
For those that missed it, he wrote this:
“I find the persona you’re projecting highly improbable for a number of reasons and think you’re far younger and vastly more obese and far more likely to be living in your mother’s basement than you’re trying to pretend and if you had access to guns would be far more likely to accidentally shoot yourself while cleaning the gun than you would be confronted by a mugger or home invader.”
Last edited by Ibn Warraq; Today at 11:05 PM.
You know what you could have done? You could have said you posted it in haste, then withdrew it upon reconsideration. Or you could have blamed it on the booze. But to to flat-out lie is just chickenshit.
The point is: England has a high violent crime rate, despite very strict gun control laws. Higher than the United States, according to the article. Which makes sense to me, as they’re pretty much all unarmed.
WTF?
Your point was that Wyoming had a lower violent crime rate because there is a high level of gun ownership in the state. When I pointed out that there wasn’t any solid correlation between ownership rates and violent crime, you switch to Merry Ol’ England. If you’re going to remove the goalposts from the stadium, at least leave them in the same fucking country.
Someone needs to very, very gently educate the Wyomingites out of this sad delusion that they have anything worth stealing or shooting anyway.
OK, maybe not so gently.
Not appropriate. Where are the mods?
Wyoming is 13th among the 50 states in per capita income.
Reported.
Here’s a screenshot of the liar’s post, for those interested:
Your screenshot doesn’t reveal anything about the post being edited.
Beyond that, calling someone a liar in GD is a violation of the board rules.
I wasn’t trying to insult you. You asked me if your be safer with or without your guns and I explained why I thought you’d be safer. Obviously, I’m making an assumption based on your behavior and vocabulary, but you seem to be strengthening the case.
Chicken, did you get confused between post #123 and #124?
Yes, I edited post 124 but not 123(which was the post you claimed I edited).
Someone needs to very, very gently educate the Wyomingites out of this sad delusion that they have anything worth stealing or shooting anyway.
OK, maybe not so gently.
Considering how much hostility was already going around in this thread, this potshot was a bad decision.
Where’s that “Your tone is becoming inappropriate for this forum” guy now?
Apparently, some inappropriate tones are more equal than others.
If you want to report a post, use the “Report Post” button in the upper right hand corner. It’s the one that looks like an exclamation mark inside a yield sign. In the meantime, you haven’t made much effort to be civil yourself:
Violent crime rates, brother. You need remedial reading classes?
Reading skills.
As I said, this stuff belongs in the Pit, not here.
I find the persona you’re projecting highly improbable for a number of reasons and think you’re far younger and vastly more obese and far more likely to be living in your mother’s basement than you’re trying to pretend and if you had access to guns would be far more likely to accidentally shoot yourself while cleaning the gun than you would be confronted by a mugger or home invader.
Ibn Warraq, you’ve been here long enough to know you can’t insult other people and call them frauds this way. I’m giving you yet another warning for this post.
I believe this: Able-bodied men have a duty to defend themselves, their families, and the weaker members of society from violent attack, using the most effective means possible. Voluntarily outsourcing this duty to others is about is a dereliction of this duty. I understand that there are those that lack the fortitude to do what a peaceful society requires, in order to remain peaceful. I do no fault you for this, all men are not born with the same abilities or mental make-up. Those that can will cover for those that can’t. What I do fault you for is trying to defend your handicap by belittling those that are not so encumbered. Please, wallow silently in your inabilities, but don’t insult the men that are unencumbered. It grows tiresome.
I am so picturing you giving this speech while wearing an ill-fitting homemade Batman costume. (By the way, one of your pecs is slipping.)
Of the many pro-gun arguments, this one—that those who *don’t *feel the need to be armed everywhere they go are the true cowards, who owe a debt of gratitude to the proud few who wear their courage on their hip—is among the most risible.
And I say that as a gun owner.