The Repeal of Obamacare/ACA: Step-bystep, Inch-by-inch

On hearing that Price resigned my first thought was, oh I’m so happy for jsgoddess! :smiley:

:smiley:

This was a good outcome after a very stressful week for me. Yes, he might be replaced by someone worse, but there is a chance he won’t be. The Senate is going to be feeling really stupid right now, after changing the rules to get him through once they were warned of his personal corruption. We’ll see.

What matters is that his weirdly shiny face won’t be on my screen as much. I need that.

Okay, with 19 minutes left, I finally feel like I can relax. That there isn’t some triple-secret-11th-hour-under-the-wire-before-the-reconciliation-deadline bullshit gonna happen.

After you mentioned it, I couldn’t stop noticing his weirdly shiny face, either. Eeeuuuggghhh.

And I’m glad he was made to resign in disgrace. He deserved it for lots and lots of reasons.

I just clicked by on fox news. They are flying the kite to see if they can blame the failure to repeal and replace on Price. You know cause it was a done deal and all, until he got on a plane and killed it. :smack:

Hmm, it seems to be October now and THAT’S ANOTHER FAIL. Hah.

So in retrospect, do you think that when the Republicans passed the budget resolution to set up health care for reconciliation, that they thought ACA would be still in force at this date?

I’m just thinking of Boehner’s comment that the Republicans never could agree on what to do with health care. Was there ever any glimmer amongst the Republicans that this might be tricky?

They can always try to nuke the filibuster, but I doubt they get around to that until next year.

Trump throws a rhetorical bone to his supporters. I can hear him now, “Congress couldn’t get the job done, so I had to do it myself!” Emphasis added.

:rolleyes:

BTW, Executive Orders were bad when Obama did them, right? Oh, I forgot: it’s okay when Republicans do it.

Vacationing and playing golf was bad, too.

Obama spent 97 million in 8 years on his vacation travels.

Trump is already over 73 million.

Yeah, but you’re not factoring in that GOP voters are generally human garbage.

And now he’s also stopping the subsidy payments that millions of working poor, self-employed and middle class families rely on to be able to actually afford coverage.

Fucking-a, I think I can’t loathe this man any more and he goes and does something like this. Can’t wait to see what my premium will be next month.

$97 million seems a tad high. To be honest, so does 73 million, even for the America-hating fuckstick. Do you have access to a breakdown those amounts, and a source?

Judicial Watch has a real hard-on for Obama’s travel expenses.
While they claim to have obtained travel records, there’s no records displayed on the site.
Every possible Obama expense is detailed while Trump’s expenses are the cost of AF1 only.

Judicial Watch also uses the 3.6 average to come up with their estimates.

http://trumpgolfcount.com/ uses the publicized 3.6 million average

So how does a trip to Palm Beach cost 3 million under Obama and only 1 million under Trump when the same personnel and vehicles travel with either President?

If you’re in the individual market but have too much income to be eligible for subsidies, you’re gonna get hit hard, it looks like.

If you’re insured through your job, or if you’re on Medicare or Medicaid, same as it ever was.

If you’re in the individual market but your income’s low enough that you qualify for subsidies, your bill won’t go up much if at all, but the government’s bill will go up considerably. (It actually costs the government more to end CSR subsidies than to keep them, from everything I’ve heard from wonks elsewhere.)

Yeah, after I read he was ending subsidies, I scrambled and researched what that actually meant for us. Considering I made the leap and went full-time self-employed last year, our income is low enough to qualify for subsidies, so…fingers crossed that this whole thing doesn’t just blow up.

Can we change the thread title? He has done everything he can to sabotage the ACA so it’s his now. What we now have is TrumpDon’tCare. He owns it.

A big step in the right direction.

Killing off the poor?

As much as I hate to say it, Trump’s play could actually turn out to be brilliant politics, and I’m now beginning to wonder if Mitch McConnell and the Republicans knew this all along. One of the big hurdles of ACA repeal was the subsidies, which a lot of the Republicans liked (though they’ll never admit it). Maybe it’s possible they keep the healthcare subsidies for to expand Medicaid while repealing the other ACA mandates and requirements. I admit that I don’t know enough about the consequences of all these changes, but it seems at the moment that the poor will still get more coverage with the subsidies (until tax reform comes around). The biggest losers in the next 12-24 months would be working class people who need individual policies. They’re going to get priced out of the market.

It’s a strategy that comes with risks for sure. If the insurers just start pulling out the marketplaces then that’s bad press. But it may not backfire. It might be that there are some winners and some losers, which is true with ACA.