Yeah, well, Starving Artist just read every word, and as is usually the case with your posts, he found nothing of merit anywhere in it.
I don’t see anything about reporters, anchors, and/or newspaper journalists being pressured at all to rein in their biased reporting. Are you suggesting that the likes of Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, CNN, etc. have been muzzled because their corporate owners either are or support Republicans? If so, I see no mention of it in your post.
And Chris Matthews is a neocon? Don’t make me laugh!
This gets me to another point right-wingers ignore: The guest anchor issue:
In Fox news shows (really opinion shows, but FOX adds them on their ratings to say they are the most popular news channel) I have seen the anchors replaced from time to time (due to vacation or Falafel incidents ) by guest anchors like Newt Gingritch, Oliver North, Tim Graham, Bill Paxton, etc. (a nice right wing bullpen)
If Liberal, I would expect replacement commentators like Michael Moore to substitute for Ted Coppell on occasion. But instead, the “liberal media” gets guys like Martin Bashir to replace Ted…
In the recent past, allways when a substitute anchor appeared for Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw or Jennins, I always thought “Who the heck is this guy?” (needless to say replacements were allways bland guys with no liberal past)
Although he has worked with Democrats: “I’m more conservative than people think,” “I’ve voted Republican many times, (including) for George W. Bush in 2000.” - October 3, 2003, Hardball
Lefties call him Chris the Screamer or Tweety, but of all the bloviators out there, he is IMO one of the few that can use the term “fair and balanced” without shame.
So you spend a couple of posts getting ready to debate your opinion, and when backed into a corner you throw up the “it’s my opinion” excuse and hide behind a smiley?
Nice. The Pit is SA’s natural habitat. Take him out of it and he’s like a polar bear stuck on the Equator.
But I still can’t take the Pit seriously. Every time I gird up my loins and crawl down the tunnel, I still see those two blokes in The Muppets sounding off from the theatre balcony, and sounding very pleased with themselves.
Anyways, I’d thought SA was a male until I saw something that made me change my mind recently. I thought it was a reference to a husband, but, eh, hard as it is to believe even I’m wrong sometimes.
I believe it. His political views are unsophisticated bordering on Archie Bunker territory, but he seems to be a nice guy who’s genuinely confused why his inane bloviating annoys folks so much.
I don’t really come in here to debate my opinion in the first place. Largely, all I’m after is to state it. If people want to argue about it then so be it, but I view this place as being a place where views are exchanged and opinons are voiced. If some of you want to try to turn it into a debating contest in order to feel you’ve won this point or that, go right ahead on. It changes nothing. Everyone still feels the way they feel regardless of this cite or that proof. All we’re doing here is exchanging points of view. Anyone thinking it is more than that is deluding themselves.
And Merijeek, it wasn’t a medical emergency. If you will recall, I said it was a previously scheduled appointment.
Thanks to ETF (and even LHoD) for the kind words.
Btw, I think you may have a point there, ETF.
And thanks to roger for giving me a new perspective on myself. It’s going to be hard for me to conduct business as usual while envisioning myself as one of the balcony blokes from The Muppets.
Here’s the problem Starving. I don’t give too hoots as to whether the media is bias. I know that I can talk until I’m blue in the face, and you will always see bias where there is simply news. The problem is the fact that the Right refuses to take responsibility for anything, and instead waves it arms frantically screaming “Hey look over there at the liberal main stream media! See how they’re doing us wrong again?”
In other words, sometimes they just plain fuck up. But instead of looking inside at their own party, they instinctively just claim how they’re getting screwed by someone else. That convenient scapegoat is more often than not, the evil main stream media.
Now, of course, you’re immediate response is going to be “Well you guys do it too!” because that is the baseline response when confronted by the Left, but I dispute that. By using your own argument this can’t be possible, because by if the media is against the Right it must be for the Left, so the Left therefore, can’t blame the media because it’s in their corner.
I’m just sick of a whole bunch of people to whom this country caters like a houseboy complaining how everyone against them. It’s a distraction technique so we won’t see what’s really going on, and that is a usurping of power through liberal guilt.
Actually, he’s right, that those words do not appear in the article. If they do, I invite you to point them out to me.
The dots are there, to be sure, just waiting to be connected. But, if you will permit me to mix metaphors, Starving Artist seems to be a particularly non-thirsty horse.
And here’s another: Put the broad brush away and discover the wondrous effects of the word “some”. Amazing, how four little letters can disarm an antagonist. “Liberals are this, liberals are that, liberals hide under the bed and eat children’s toes at night” is going to provoke a predictable backlash. “Some liberals do this, some liberals do that, some liberals trample the hell out of innocent people in their rush to do good” – now, that’s not going to raise nearly as many hackles.
“Conservatives don’t give a rat’s ass about the poor, they’re just out to ream 'em for all they can get” – that’s a stupid comment, and false as a generalization. Tuck the word “some” in there first, and the sentence becomes a statement that can be defended as true, inviting debate perhaps, but not calculated to inflame those who identify as conservative but do not believe such a statement applies to them.
I have to ask – do you think that I share the traits you so deeply deplore in liberals? And if not, then how many more people of my political persuasion do you similarly traduce with your polemics?
On the contrary, I press so much because this issue is one that I would like to get to the bottom of. I know quite a few people who I hold in very high regard who believe in the liberal bias of the media. I don’t see it, but I am open to the possibility that it is there. That’s why I get involved in these threads. I want to see it settled one way or the other.
I enter any exchange with an open mind. If you can’t, then you’ve gots some problems.
) by guest anchors like Newt Gingritch, Oliver North, Tim Graham, Bill Paxton, etc. (a nice right wing bullpen)