The right to yell "faggot" on a crowded playground

“Anti-bullying vote blocked in Olympia”

“Consevative opponents say bill is a gay-right measure”

http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/local/21001_bully01.shtml
No problem. Just put in something about you’re not allowed to harass, berate or intimidate anyone EXCEPT for homosexuals. That way they won’t be getting any special rights. :rolleyes:
Just wanted to put this up for the next time someone proposes the anti-gay movement has anything to do with loving the sinner (in this case the 12 year old “sinner”).

“The right to yell”?

OK, I know I typed in “The right to yell “faggot” on a crowded playground” at some point.

Only thing I didn’t check when I previewed. Could a mod please fix that? Thanks.

What does the bill say?

That’s where you went wrong. Previewing a new thread that has quotes in the title causes all the words after the quotes to be eaten. Where they go no one knows.

This is an old (May 1st) story, and I think there was a thread on the matter. Perhaps later tonight when the board is faster someone can run a search – I am loath to do one now.

But here’s your General Answer, Lib. The page wouldn’t link correctly because of the way the Legislature’s search page works (or because I didn’t understand how to do it. :))


Z-0562.3   _______________________________________________

                           HOUSE BILL 1444
           _______________________________________________

State of Washington       57th Legislature       2001 Regular Session

By Representatives Murray, Ballasiotes, Mitchell, Quall, Dickerson,
Haigh, McIntire, Linville, Simpson, Reardon, Kenney, Hunt, Fisher,
Conway, Hurst, Tokuda, Fromhold, Poulsen, Santos, Romero, Rockefeller,
Dunshee, Gombosky, Darneille, Edwards, Skinner, O'Brien, Lantz, Wood,
Miloscia, Grant, Kessler, Kirby, Jackley, Kagi, Keiser, H. Sommers,
Ogden, Cody, Edmonds, Morris, Lovick, McDermott, Woods, Jarrett,
Mastin, Cooper, Schual-Berke and Ruderman; by request of Governor
Locke, Attorney General and Superintendent of Public Instruction

Read first time 01/25/2001.  Referred to Committee on Education.
    AN ACT Relating to preventing harassment, intimidation, or bullying
in schools; adding new sections to chapter 28A.635 RCW; and creating a
new section.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON:

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 1.  The legislature declares that a safe
and civil environment in school is necessary for students to learn and
achieve high academic standards.  The legislature finds that
harassment, intimidation, or bullying, like other disruptive or violent
behavior, is conduct that disrupts both a student's ability to learn
and a school's ability to educate its students in a safe environment.
    Furthermore, the legislature finds that students learn by example.
The legislature commends school administrators, faculty, staff, and
volunteers for demonstrating appropriate behavior, treating others with
civility and respect, and refusing to tolerate harassment,
intimidation, or bullying.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 2.  As used in sections 3 through 5 of
this act, "harassment, intimidation, or bullying" means any gesture or
written, verbal, or physical act taking place on or immediately
adjacent to school grounds, at any school-sponsored activity, on
school-provided transportation, or at any official school bus stop that
(1) a reasonable person under the circumstances should know will have
the effect of harming a student or damaging his or her property, or
placing a student in reasonable fear of harm to his or her person or
damage to his or her property, or (2) has the effect of insulting or
demeaning any student or group of students in such a way as to disrupt
or interfere with the school's educational mission or the education of
any student.  "Harassment, intimidation, or bullying" includes but is
not limited to any such gesture or written, verbal, or physical act
that is reasonably perceived as being motivated either by any actual or
perceived characteristic in RCW 9A.36.080(3) or by any other
distinguishing characteristic.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 3.  (1) Each school district shall adopt
a policy prohibiting harassment, intimidation, or bullying on or
immediately adjacent to school grounds, at any school-sponsored
activity, on school-provided transportation, or at any official school
bus stop.  Each school district shall have local control over the
content of the policy as long as the policy contains, at a minimum, the
components in subsection (2) of this section.  It is recommended that
the policy be adopted through a process that includes representation of
parents or guardians, school employees, volunteers, students,
administrators, and community representatives.
    (2) Each school district's policy shall, at a minimum, include each
of the following components:
    (a) A statement prohibiting harassment, intimidation, or bullying
of a student;
    (b) A definition of harassment, intimidation, or bullying no less
inclusive than that in section 2 of this act;
    (c) A description of the type of behavior expected from each
student;
    (d) Consequences and appropriate remedial action for a person who
commits an act of harassment, intimidation, or bullying;
    (e) A procedure for reporting an act of harassment, intimidation,
or bullying, including a provision that permits a person to report an
act of harassment, intimidation, or bullying anonymously; however, this
subsection (2)(e) shall not be construed to permit formal disciplinary
action solely on the basis of an anonymous report;
    (f) A procedure for prompt investigation of reports of violations
and complaints, identifying either the principal or the principal's
designee as the person responsible for such investigation;
    (g) The range of ways in which a school will respond once an
incident of harassment, intimidation, or bullying is identified;
    (h) A statement that prohibits reprisal or retaliation against any
person who reports an act of harassment, intimidation, or bullying, and
the consequences and appropriate remedial action for a person who
engages in such reprisal or retaliation;
    (i) Consequences and appropriate remedial action for a person found
to have falsely accused another as a means of retaliation or as a means
of harassment, intimidation, or bullying; and
    (j) A statement of how the policy is to be publicized including
notice that the policy applies to participation in school-sponsored
activities.
    (3) Each school district shall adopt such a policy and transmit a
copy of its policy to the office of the superintendent of public
instruction by September 1, 2002.
    (4) To assist school districts in developing policies for the
prevention of harassment, intimidation, or bullying, the office of the
superintendent of public instruction shall develop a model policy
applicable to grades K-12.  This model policy shall be issued no later
than December 1, 2001.
    (5) Notice of the school district's policy shall appear in any
publication of the school district that sets forth the comprehensive
rules, procedures, and standards of conduct for the school, and in any
student handbook.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 4.  (1) No school employee, student, or
volunteer may engage in reprisal, retaliation, or false accusation
against a victim, witness, or one with reliable information about an
act of harassment, intimidation, or bullying.
    (2) A school employee, student, or volunteer who has witnessed, or
has reliable information that a student has been subjected to,
harassment, intimidation, or bullying, whether verbal or physical, is
encouraged to report such incident to the appropriate school official
designated by the school district's policy.
    (3) A school employee who promptly reports an incident of
harassment, intimidation, or bullying to the appropriate school
official designated by the school district's policy, and who makes this
report in compliance with the procedures in the district's policy
prohibiting bullying, harassment, or intimidation, is immune from a
cause of action for damages arising from any failure to remedy the
reported incident.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 5.  (1) Schools and school districts are
encouraged to form bullying prevention task forces, programs, and other
initiatives involving school staff, students, administrators,
volunteers, parents, law enforcement, and community members.
    (2) To the extent funds are appropriated for these purposes, each
school district shall (a) provide training on the school district's
harassment, intimidation, or bullying policies to school employees and
volunteers who have significant contact with students, and (b) develop
a process for discussing the district's harassment, intimidation, or
bullying policy with students.
    (3) Information regarding the school district policy against
harassment, intimidation, or bullying shall be incorporated into each
school's current employee training program.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 6.  Sections 2 through 5 of this act shall
not be interpreted to prevent a victim from seeking redress under any
other available law either civil or criminal.  Sections 2 through 6 of
this act do not create or alter any tort liability.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 7.  Sections 2 through 6 of this act are
each added to chapter 28A.635 RCW.

    {+ NEW SECTION. +}  Sec. 8.  If any provision of this act or its
application to any person or circumstance is held invalid, the
remainder of the act or the application of the provision to other
persons or circumstances is not affected.

                             --- END ---

Pardon, me, I have to go to the local school playground and yell “FAGGOT!” at everyone, and throw little bundles of tied up sticks at the kiddies.

:wink:
(What a stupid decision…what next-we don’t have the right to punish sexual harassment because boys have the right to feel up unwilling females?)

You mean we boys don’t have the right to feel up unwitting females? :o

(Oh, wait, you said “unwilling,” not “unwitting.”)

Yelling “Faggot” at people on a playground is obviously harrasment, but what about calling someone an “abomination of God” in a speaking tone of voice? Or refering to them as an “abomination of God” in a conversation they overhear? I don’t want to defend the serious homophobes out there, but the fact is this sort of “feel-good” legislation does raise some grey issues: people disapprove of each other, people dislike each other, people are rude and mean and inconsiderate. Drafting legislation that manages to differentiate between normal human jerkyness and actual harrassment is diffucult, to say the least.

Here is a article talking about the issue without knee-jerk homophobia getting in the way. Leo has a tendency to overstate his case (what editorialist dosen’t?) but I think he has some good points. Some snips:

A truly stupid reason to not pass a truly stupid law.

Except for some extreme situation, a legislature ought not enact laws defining how particular professions should do their job.

It may or may not be a good idea for schools to focus more on bullying, but I hate the idea of setting into stone this complex law, when nobody knows if the legislature’s approach is even effective, let alone best.

BTW there was a recent school case where T-shirts with “Gay Pride” written on them were encouraged, while T-shirts saying “Straight Pride” were prohibited. (The “straight pride” shirt just won in court.) This sort of thing may help to explain the over-sensitivity of the homophobes.

Since when is feeling up female students harassment? I thought it was outright assault.

Marc

There wasn’t a court case as I’ve read. A student was suspended for wearing a Straight Pride t-shirt. Do you have a citation for the court case?

Moreover, the school district in question was NOT encouraging Gay Pride shirts in anything I’ve read.

[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Hastur *
**

The suit is described here: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/4/3/224400.shtml

ONly a week or so ago, I read that the student got an order allowing him to wear his Straight Pride T-shirt in school, but I haven’t found that cite. Also, I assume that we’re talking about the same case, but I can’t remember the details clearly enough to be certain. IN fact, here’s an entry from Google that’s from Utah, not Minnesota

The Salt Lake Tribune – Teen, Proud To Be Straight, Sues …
… allow Elliott to wear his “Straight Pride” shirt. But in a … Copyright 2001, The Salt
Lake Tribune … news services. No material may be reproduced or reused …
http://www.sltrib.com/04052001/nation_w/85917.htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages

Your second cite does not come up.

Regardless. Your statement that Gay Pride shirts were encouraged and Straight Pride is not holds no water.

That the American Family Association is helping this homophobic kid is no surprise. The AFA is headed by Donald Wildmon, a rabid fundie who has protested anything he sees as harming family values. He protested the television show Designing Women during the 80’s because he thought it was promoting lesbianism.

The AFA is just using this kid to promote their narrow view points via the courts.

I find nothing heterophobic about a shirt marked “Gay Pride”. Similarly, I find nothing homophobic about a shirt marked “Straight Pride”.

The conservative opponents are just being silly. This:

–can apply to anything, not just “if you think he looks gay you can’t call him a faggot.”

As the parent of a 14-year-old who was only yesterday busted by the school principal, along with a bunch of his good buds, for “horseplay” resulting in the horseplayee’s wristwatch being broken, and the horseplayers being asked (required) to chip in for a new one, I heartily endorse anything that will help school officials get a handle on “horseplay”. I think we as a society have to move on past the shrugging “boys will be boys” Good Old Days, the same way we had to move on past the “Rape victims wearing halter tops were just asking for it” Good Old Days.

I think of it as a tool, rather than a weapon. A distressingly large number of Bonzo’s little school chums have parents who basically don’t care what happens at school, so Mrs. H. (who runs a very tight ship indeed and who, sadly, is retiring this year), needs all the tools she can get to manage a Middle School population of rowdy boys (and girls–she’s busted girls for “horseplay”, too.) A lot of these kids don’t learn “don’t bully” at home, so where’s the tutelage supposed to come from? Our society has decided that all the Mrs. H’s in all the middle schools and high schools all across America are stuck with the job.

Anything that helps people focus on the problem can’t be all bad.

see http://ToogoodReports.com/column/general/jipping/052401.htm

This cite doesn’t explicitly mention Gay Pride T-shirts, but it does allege that the school policy is “pro[homosexual.”

Again, december, your source is rather plainly biased. Please find a cite (or site) that deals with the subject in a neutral fashion, one that discusses the facts without throwing rhetoric around and thatagrees with your conclusion, and then I might agree you’ve got a case.

For one thing, I’d like to see an image of these so-called “posters” in place and to scale, so we can see just how blatant their presence is. According to one of our other posters, the safe-zone markers is usually a sticker in the window.

Oh, and FWIW we’ve already covered Elliot Chambers Here.

Rather thoroughly.

Pounded that horse right into the mud.

That agrees

Send more coffee

So, to protect students that are regularly harassed for their sexual orientation is pro-homosexual? More like anti-harassment. Kids have enough to deal with during adolescence without being harassed.

Why does there have to be a law for everthing?
What’s next? Booger picking or farting,because it grosses out your classmates?