http://www. liberty.edu/StudentAffairs/index.cfm?PID=1378
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I don’t take things here to the Pit often (actually never have i started one here before) but this pisses me off. A very close friend of mine is going to this college and is now hating it. I am not going to this college, but i’m hating it also. I understand that it is a Christian-based school, but several of those rules are unbelievable inane. Here are some that really stand out:
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[li]Improper personal contact (anything beyond hand-holding)[/li][li]Missing Convocation [/li][li]Attendance at a dance [/li][li]Attendance at, possession or viewing of, an “R,” “NC-17” or “X”-rated movie [/li][li]Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration [/li][li]Association with those consuming alcohol [/li][li]Two or more individuals of the opposite sex together in motel room [/li][/ul]
If it were up to me, i’d say this place was inherently run by fascists or even neo-nazis. I hear Jerry Falwell is a chancellor to that school and makes appearances on campus once in a while, so i’d wager he has some influence on these demerits.
I know that some of the Christian universities around here have similar rules… nothing so strict as that though. I seem to recall that the rules include no pre-marital sex and the like… nothing about demanding they be there for services or not going to dances or not seeing certain movies…
Hang on there. What age is the college going crowd in the US?
I think I’m right in assuming at least part (if not the majority) of the students would be 18 years or older, right? Then what the hell does this college think to accomplish? I can understand a Christian college having rules about guests of the opposite sex in the dorm rooms, but they want it to apply to off-campus residences as well. That just doesn’t make sense - the college can’t enforce rules outside its jurisdiction.
And no drinking, no smoking, no kissing, no good movies… wow, sounds like the place where a person can truly focus on their academic development. Is Evolution Theory 101 any good at this college?
Part of me thinks—well, obviously no one is forcing the kids to attend that school, so if they don’t like the rules, don’t go. (I sure as hell wouldn’t.) But if they are (as Coldfire points out) going to try to regulate what the students do offcampus, well, that’s just beyond bizarre.
I think the “no kissing” thing is a little odd too. Even the most virtuous of the Singing Cowboys in those old '30s Westerns kissed their best gals. If Roy Rogers can do it, whey can’t these students?
jeez. in my college, when i was freshman they instructed us that we aren’t allowed to watch porn on our laptops because some people might be offended.
but we have all been required to purchase those $4000 IBM Thinkpads with 11Mbit wireless LAN adapters. Kazaa had just came out and speed was blazing obviously people could care less for such inane rules
i have to second Kabbes, wtf was your friend thinking ?
some professors went so far as to demand those playing online games during lecture should do it in the back of the lecture room.
now that’s fascism
but what i love about our college is that we rate our professors online anonymously and if they get bad ratings they have to answer to their superiors. in other words, such oppresion didn’t last.
so for example when i took art history they accidentally placed 60 students in a room rated for 30. but students decided to keep the room because unlike many rooms it was equipped with enough power outlets ( mounted into desk surface )
Scholarships and it’s a conservative school (although now, that seems like a bad thing). I mean, i tend to lean to the right, but this place seems like the devil. And now, hatred is on the rise with her and this prison.
I did a ride-along with a friend who was a cop in Lynchburg. He drove me to the place where all the Liberty students go to have sex. Though nobody was scrogging at the time, he told me that particular parking lot was the unofficial, and quite active, Liberty lovenest.
It was years ago, so I can’t give your friend directions. He’ll have to figure it out himself, I guess.
Remember, these are True Believers[sup]TM[/sup], who are so blessed that they know the mind of the Almighty. These are not college rules, but The Will of God Himself!
I wouldn’t choose to attend a university with those rules.
No one is forced to attend, actually. Those that do - I have little sympathy for their complaints about the draconcian rules, since they knew, and agreed, to the situation.
But if the OP’s point is merely that the rules are overly restrictive, I certainly agree.
A few years ago, I knew a guy with a very active and unorthodox sexual history, and he was a Liberty grad. Of course, all that had happened before he was born again, and now leads a life of Christian moderation.
A different friend who goes to Bob Jones said that their rules are even more restrictive - for example, they have the movie ban that SlickRoenick references for Liberty, but theirs also covers PG-13 films, as well as soundtracks for the movies.
My first instinct was to say that as much as I dislike religious lunacy, the students at Liberty presumably did choose the school of their own free will and in full knowledge of the rules, but after reading your link I’m not so sure. I’m pretty disturbed that they can fine students for things like “immorality” and “disobedience / disrespect” without clearly defining what these terms mean. It sounds like there’s a huge potential for abuse built into the system.
(And what’s with “sexual misconduct and / or any state of undress”? Are students supposed to sleep in their clothes and wear bathing suits in the shower?)
obviously people could care less for such inane rules