The Run-Up to Empire Strikes Back

I was born just a year before the first Star Wars film came out, and I became aware of the franchise in the very early 1980s, in between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. I remember that most of the toys in the school playground were Empire-era toys, e.g. AT-ATs and Snowspeeders, and everybody seemed to have the poxy Bespin cloud car, which I assume was cheap.

That and C-3PO with removable limbs. And the medical droid, which was just a plastic tube with arms. And, er, the 12" Boba Fett, who towered over the other figures. Which is entirely fitting because he was incredible. It was a shame his rocket didn’t fire.

I can remember the hype surrounding Jedi - the features in comics, the toys, the novelisation etc - but I had a distant impression that it didn’t feel special. It felt like the same hyper for any other big film at the time. I was only seven years old but it just didn’t feel like a particularly big event; just more toys. From that point onwards Transformers took over and Star Wars vanished from my mind until the 1990s.

Now, I’ve always been curious about the build-up to Empire Strikes Back. Did people expect it to be any good? Franchises back then generally didn’t work out very well. The original Star Wars is open-ended, but the storyline doesn’t lend itself to a natural sequel (the Rebels won, right?). And there had been a three-year gap, which felt longer then because of inflation - that three years would actually be fifteen years today. I think of the late 1970s as a fantastically bleak, dark time without much light, and I suppose Empire fits this mental stereotype, because it’s a bleak film.

Without the internet I assume fans communicated with fanzines, CB radio, hidden messages in cakes and perhaps those heliograph things. Did people speculate about Empire? Was there a hype industry with people posting mock-ups of how Darth Vader might look without the helmet? The fact of (spoiler) one of the main characters having an unexpected familial link with one of the other main characters (spoiler) was presumably so far off-the-wall that no-one expected it, but was there a general assumption that Empire would take a certain form?

Did people queue to see it? Reading through Google Books it seems that there was a mass of hype and a lot of people were expected something special; the original film was re-released just beforehand, the soundtrack album was still in the charts etc. Splinter of the Mind’s eye and the Marvel comic were all still in print. The Holiday Special must surely have endeared itself to one and all.

It’s fascinating in retrospect because we know now that Empire was a classy piece of work, well worth the wait; and that although George Lucas gambled and paid for the film with his own money, and chose to give it a downbeat ending and put all the action at the beginning, it worked out. It could so easily have been an unambitious pile of cack.

I remember at the time (I was 9 or 10) that Star Wars was a better film but I have since revisited the issue with a proper amendment.

Yes, people lined up to see it. I was among them. I was 23 years old, and we were all waiting feverishly for the release. There was no internet then so there wasn’t much in the way of leaked pictures, plot point speculations, etc.

I saw the 2 a.m. show (the second showing) at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood. I went back to see it many times. It was the subject of excited fan discussions at work for months afterwards.

I liked it more than the first film.

Not necessarily so. Remember, the culture was used to certain waiting periods–summer network reruns, nightly news instead of 24 hours, etc. Plus, remember that films like Empire might stay in the theater for 6-9 months or longer, so those “legs” made the time go quicker.

The most important speculation revolved around one character: Boba Fett. He was the special action figure you could order early and he also made a guest appearance (in cartoon form) on the Star Wars Holiday Special. So a lot of it centered around him.

I honestly didn’t read national magazines that young so had no sense of what the reviews were. It was definitely considered dark and transitional, but the major revelations (“I love you”/“I know”; the father/son) really rung true, and Boba hadn’t died like a punk yet and Yoda was considered generally effective. Of course, the big speculation was around “There is another”, though I remember the first time I heard that Luke & Leia might be siblings, I considered it preposterous. (Still do, a little)

The initial sensation over Star Wars had yet to die down, and everyone I knew was waiting eagerly for Empire (I hung out with a lot of SF/SCA types in those days). I saw the “Coming Attractions” trailer for it, and I was blown away! Technically, it was a better film than Star Wars (they had a shitload more money to play with) and almost as much fun (the first was a true romp!).

I’ve never been as disappointed as I was when I saw Jedi for the first time. For me, it was more than two hours of “WTF?!?” and I all but lost interest in the series after it. The one and only time I bothered seeing Menace, I fell asleep two thirds of the way through.

As far as the first two movies are concerned, though, the only thing that comes even close in my experience is the debut of Batman in January 1966. For reasons that few people nowadays would understand, America went bat-crazy for the next nine months or so.

The Holiday Special endeared itself to no one.

No. One.

Starlog magazine, and to a lesser extent, Future(Life) had a lot of coverage. Many photos from the sets were released, interviews with the cast and crew.

I think there was even a passing speculation about Luke and Leia’s parentage.

Starlog also mentioned, even before Empire was released, I believe, the third film, Revenge of the Jedi, as it used to be known. There was an interview with Lucas where he discussed the 9 planned films.

Of course, Starlog also had a huge feature on the Holiday Special, so I think they’d have printed anything SW related.

The novelization of the film, written by Donald F. Glut, was released about a month before the movie was – I remember finishing it in my parents’ car (I was 10) in the parking lot of a grocery store in Kansas. The cover alone raised a lot of questions, like why Han seemed to be smooching Leia.

I couldn’t wait to see the AT-ATs on screen. I didn’t see the movie until a couple of weeks after it opened – I was so excited. Saw it with my uncle and cousins in Grand Junction, Colorado. The AT-ATs did not disappoint.

This thread made me want to see the original theatrical trailer and wow, it’s really jarring how different trailers were back then. That narration!

Odd. I don’t remember that narration at all. :confused:

I’m sure there was some, but I can’t imagine it was in that high-pitched voice! I would think it was more like Darth Vader’s.

The build-up and expectyation were impressive — most impressive.
People went to see the re-release of the original Star Wars just to see the trailer for Empire. There were rumors of stolen copies of the trailer – just the trailer, mind.

When the film opened, there were, indeed, long lines to get in. I know – I waited in one.

People attended dressed as characters. I remember at least one Han Solo (and this was long before “Cosplay”. Even fans in those days didn’t go to movies dressed in costume).

As I was going into the theater, a woman I’d never seen in my life before came up to me and said “It’s better than the original!”

So, yeah, TESB was definitely a Big Deal when it came out.

Wait, did I just see a Luke-Leia kiss.:eek::eek:

Oh, yeah! CREE-PY, innit? :dubious:

And did C3P0 just tear a warning sign off a door? Never seen that before…?

That’s from an entirely cut scene that was only half filmed, where wampas attacked the base and then were trapped in a room. Threepio tears off the warning sign so snowtroopers later enter it and get slaughtered.

In case folks don’t know, the narration for that trailer was provided by a guy who had a bit part in all three original Star Wars movies.

No way was that Han!!! :eek: :smack:

I thought it sounded like Ford. He was just talking in a slightly higher pitch.

That narration is fantastic compared to the narrator in the trailer for the first film.

It looks and sounds as though it were being played too fast.