here’s a great reason. Ray Lewis, speaking on Terrell Owens and his dance:
“Like I said, if you are going to play a football game, don’t be a coward and wait until you make one play to do something, just play football,” Lewis said. “His celebration doesn’t mean anything.”
LOFL. Says the guy who pops around like a jackass after he tackles someone who just gained 5 yards, and who dances around pregame like Jerry’s kids getting electroshock therapy. TO make a HUGE play that won the game and RayRay is upset that he celebrated. boohoo.
I believe we should introduce Senior Pot to Monsoir Kettle.
Oh man, it’s real. I thought that was just a bizarre typo.
I bet it’s a very prestigious school of prestige.
Whoopee. He also has a high school diploma from somewhere. He played football at Miami. Ask 100 football fans where he went to school. 99 (assuming you are part of that 100) will say Miami. Hmm, what might the NFL officially say. Oh hey, Miami.
Fantastic job to him for going back to his degree when it isn’t necessary in a business sense (he did so to keep a promise to his mother), but until we are debating the pros and cons of his preening around like a prima donna prior to the 3rd quarter fiscal cycle meeting with the management from the Toledo branch, the location where he earned his Business Administration degree has no bearing on the subject.
Exactly. They’re both dicks, but at least TO doesn’t make any bones about the fact that he likes showboating, and at least he only does it when he scores. How did Ray Lewis’ dance/epileptic fit come to be a brilliant motivational technique, while Joe Horn, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson, etc. are all selfish pricks because they celebrate after making plays?
I can’t understand how Ray Lewis became such a goddamned sacred cow in the NFL. TO did his little dance, and the freaking TV guys said “He’s mocking Ray Lewis” in the same tone of voice you might expect to hear someone say “He’s shitting on the Virgin Mary.” Fuck you, Ray. Make the tackle next time, and you can dance.
If TO’s reputation was based solely on one or two post-touchdown celebrations, you might have a scintilla of a point.
Also, remind me of how many times Ray Lewis has ripped down the signs of opposing fans.
If I said anything about TO’s reputation being undeserved, you might have a point. TO’s a dick. I guess I should’ve said that earlier. Maybe in like my first sentence or something.
Remind me why the fuck I should care about ripping down a sign?
Well, you apparently care about Ray Lewis’s dance, so it’s not that much of a stretch.
No, I care that Ray Lewis feels like he has the moral high ground from which to talk down to Terrell Owens. Ray Lewis’ dance in itself never bothered me other than looking stupid. Compared to most NFL stars, I actually sort of like Ray Lewis. If he hadn’t gone to Miami (check my location) he might be one of my favorite players. Once he starts saying things like “just play football,” though, I have a problem with that, because it’s absurd coming from him, considering that he does the dance and runs his mouth the entire game. Does that make sense?
If Ray Lewis doesn’t shoot his mouth off, I wonder why ABC inevitably chooses him to “mic up” for the Ravens’ games that they cover? Seems like it wouldn’t be very interesting to get alot of audio of “Nice play, man.” Unless perhaps they know something that weirddave doesn’t know.
Except that’s all that they do get. Haven’t you ever listened? I’ll cheerfully concede your point, however, if you can show me evidence that Ray went to ABC and said “Hey guys, will ya mic me? Will ya? Huh? huh? huh?” and not the other way around. (ABC asking Ray to be mic’ed)
Damn. I hate going back on a good stomp-out.
This thread keeps assaulting me, haunting me like a shadow in the darkness. Why? Because I’m insane.
Anyway, Terrell Owens gets away with his outrageous behavior to an extent. When he crosses the line with someone, the word gets back to him- his teammates and coaches at least let him know if he’s really gone too far, they always do. The NFL has always had clownish players pushing the limits of taste and acceptablility, and he’ll be tolerated as long as he catches TD passes.
Remember Jim McMahon? He wore a headband with a sports equipmeant company logo, and Pete Rozelle stepped in and fined or threatened to fine hem. His reply? Next game, he wore a headband with “Rozelle” scrawled on in magic marker. (the same headband, reversed, IIRC.)
I don’t read the Baltimore local papers, so I may be missing something, but Ray Lewis hasn’t been acting out any more than is necessary to pump up his team. No rhetoric , threats, innuendo. He has either toned it down, at least as far as what can be heard, or earlier reports were exaggerated.
Since there are many of us He Hate Me’s here…
Not a good week for Baltimore, was it? The Green boys and the Steeler defense crushed the Weirdos, and the Ravens need to find an offense… T. Rex’s only bad player was a Raven, and it’s about time to drop his ass.
Back to T.O.- I don’t think he’ll tempt fate by taunting the Steelers defense, and I have him in two leagues, but I hope he chokes it this week. Big time.
How about those Chefs? I still think they can slice and dice their way to the playoffs with that scoring machine.
This leads me to a good question: has the stepped-up rule enforcement of defensive backs impeding receivers made the passing game more open, in general? Is that why 2 quarterbacks can throw 5 TDs in one weekend, and several have 3 or more each and every weekend?
What do you think?
Well, yeah. When you’re missing your All-Pro left tackle, All-Pro tailback, and Pro-Bowl tight end, your offense might suffer a little bit. I was impressed (if a little disappointed) with the way the played Sunday.
Is there another T.O in the league? Because I’m pretty sure you’re not talking about Terrell Owens here.
I know this might be blasphemy to Ravens fans (I am a Ravens fan and I don’t like even thinking it), but does anybody else think Ray Lewis might have lost a step? My brother pointed it out to me a couple of weeks ago, and watching the game Sunday I was thinking he might have been right. I don’t live in Baltimore anymore and I haven’t gotten to see them play as much as I’d like to the last couple of years, but it looked to me like he was missing tackles that he would have made two years ago and getting blocked more easily. He’s still a great linebacker, but he doesn’t seem like the monster he was in 2000 or '01. Or am I (please) wrong?
I should have been a little more clear- this was FF taunting.
It’s not just your imagination – I think without a doubt it has. Halfway through thte season and we have:
For recievers:
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TO looks to be on pace to score 18 touchdowns and Moss would be right with him if not for his hamstring injury.
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Over the past 3 years, an average of 5.6 players have scored at least 10 recieving touchdowns in a season. This year 10 players are on pace to have that.
For Quarterbacks:
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2 QBS who are on pace to challange Marino’s 20 year old Touchdown AND yardage records.
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5 QBS on pace to have 4000 yard seasons (an average of 2.6 QBs have done each year over the last 3 season)
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5 QBS currently have qb ratings above 100 (and 2 more are above 99) – this is the most telling stat of all IMO. only 32 different QBS in NFL history have ever done this and this year 7 differnent QBS have a very real shot at it. And Peyton Manning is within pissing distance of 120 (currently 117.4) This is nearly 5 points higher than the NFL record (Steve Young, 112.8, 1994). Manning has a shot at 120 and only 3 QBs have ever broken 110.
You are missing the point. Whether he asked to be mic’ed up is irrelevant. I don’t believe he did. The point is that they select him because he is known to shoot his mouth off. They are looking for colorful audio to entertain people.
Let me ask you this - if Ray Lewis has a trademarked dance (i.e. one that someone like Terrell Owens can imitate such that it is recognizable as “Ray Lewis’ Dance,” how can it be argued that he does not make a spectacle of himself?
BTW, how about those Texans? Taking the Vikes to OT, beating previous Houston resident Titans for the first time and then division leading Jacksonville Sunday to pull into a tie with Indianopolis and a 4-3 record. Not bad for a 2 1/2 year old.
Oh, and congrats to Roethlisberger. Helluva game Sunday.
I am psyched for both the Texans and Chargers, up-and-comers I’d like to see do well. What’s the point of being good if every other team sucks?
The Texans don’t suck; I think they can finish 9-7. But I chuckled to myself – a Giants fan – when I read your comment about “taking the Vikes to OT”. What, you can’t beat those scrubs? hehheh.
Fellow blasphemer checking in. I don’t know about Ray Ray losing a step, although his many complaints about being double-teamed in that Monday Nighter, while he was usually being single-covered, was not a good omen.
But I’m starting to feel the same way about my sacred defender, Michael Strahan. In the early part of the season, he was put in flat zones and man coverage (against the hb) many times, all of which I considered mistakes. But I watched the Vikes game closely, and where Strahan completely dominated last season’s matchup, getting several sacks and huge pressure despite being double- (and sometimes triple-) teamed, this year he was all but an afterthought in our annual trouncing of the Vikings. And he was not in coverage; for the most part, he was freed up to attack the passer virtually every snap. Not good.
But see, when the Steelers whip your ass in pre-season and then later you improve to the point of taking the Vikes to OT, not to mention beating the Chiefs, Titans and Panthers then your enthusiasm knows no bounds.
Remember, the Giants probably serve hot dogs older than our franchise.