When the fuck was I supposed to follow your lead? I received no such order.
And, who’s being partisan? I’m just repeating back the attitude I’ve gotten from you and the Baltimore fans who decided that Steeler fans are evil assholes who wait outside stadiums (stadia?) looking to mug those wearing different colors.
Yeah, you’re the bug guy, being all magnanimous about the Steelers. Only because they’re ahead in the standings. I don’t see you acting like this if the tables were turned, as they were last year,
This shit really bugs me. Say what you want about the team, just leave me out of it. Hell, I even changed my goddamned screen name to avoid this shit.
I’d go to Baltimore for a game, but I don’t feel safe at all.
Kind if defeats the purpose of changing your name, when you tell everyone who read the prior threads about it and then get into the exact same discussion all over again with the new name.
What’s even more ironic is that I had no idea who you were (hey, is that chicken cooked yet?) and if I had, I wouldn’t have responded as I did knowing how this kind of smack talk bothers you. As it was, someone I didn’t know responded to a post I made titled “I am speaking as a fan of football, not as a Ravens fan.” in which I tried to provide balanced commentary, and was even complimentary towards the Steelers with a somewhat snide remark, so I responded apropriately.
Also, you’d be perfectly safe at the game in Baltimore. Unless you wore purple.
It’s even worse when you’re judged by your screen name, not what you post. I didn’t change my name to hide from anyone, just to stop the stupid shit like Joey Porter’s bullshit showing up in a thread about Star Trek. I’m sorry if the name change offends you, but too fucking bad.
You can take shit from Weirddave because you have some other basis to talk to him. I’m tired of having the same old shit dragged up in my face that I have no control over or any way to refute.
It’s a fucking typo, shitcakes. “Kind of” is what it should have said. Since that was a fucking chore for you to figure out, let’s go back 4 posts to yours: WHAT THE FUCK DOES “Yeah, you’re the bug guy,” mean? :rolleyes:
And for the record, Weirddave and I have never interacted on this board about anything other than football (that I can recall, anyway). The difference is, neither of us have a psyche as fragile as a house of cards and we know that talking shit about football is just that – Shit talking. It doesn’t ruin my hour, my day, or my month, or anything else on the SDMB when he talks shit to me…it’s part of the game. Sorry that you can’t seem to grasp that.
I’ve kept my mouth shut about you for the most part now that you’re coming at me you can munch on my nutsack. I never judged you by your screenname, in fact I tried to cut you some extra slack since we had something in common. Your name change doesn’t offend me…in fact I’m glad. Every other post I read from you is sniveling 5 year old shit about your feelings being hurt and you getting huffy or sounded like you need mommy wipe your nose. That fact that you act like a fucking crybaby martyr all the goddammed time is the only thing about you that offends me. So now, I’m glad you can continue to act like a nimrod with a new screen name that does not include the team that I love.
Is there some rule I’m unaware of that these threads must have at least one trainwreck every three pages?
I’m encouraged about Eli’s performance. Especially the one sack, which came on the fourth play of the game. All the experts blamed the OL for the avalanche of sacks, but I knew better. I now stand vindicated, with Eli only surrendering a single sack to the league’s best sacking team.
I blame the first pick on the coaching staff. Having Eli try to manufacture something with 16 seconds on the clock was an act of desperation, not a calculated attempt to win.
The second pick was a rookie mistake. Good, cross off one of the inevitable rookie mistakes as already experienced.
You AFC North guys pointing out injuries cracks me up. Partially because I’m a Giants fan, and we’ve probably had more missed starter-games this year than the Steelers and Ravens have had since realignment. Factor in last year’s starter-games missed and I’m pretty confident the Giants would lead the league by a large margin over that two year span. But all that aside, just look at the Browns for an example of a team with injuries.
As a data point, off the top of my head I count 45 starter-games missed this season alone for the Giants. I’d bet the Browns are up there as well. Either team probably has more than the Steelers and Ravens combined. Not to even mention the Patriots, who had more than their fair share last year.
Still, all that said, it is indeed impressive that both clubs are doing so well despite some key injuries. But how many starter-games have actually been missed by the Steelers and Ravens this year? 10 each?
Kendall Simmons - out since preseason.
Tommy Maddox - out since week 2.
Casey Hampton - out since Dallas (week 4 or 5?).
Chad Scott - out since Dallas.
Duce Staley - out since Philadelphia.
This is just off the top of my head. I’m sure that there are more that I am missing. I’m not even including Kendrell Bell.
Or did you mean ten starters out for the season? Because we don’t quite have that, but we’re not far off!
Yeah, Hentor, I was counting as you were posting.
By my count, we’re at 38:
LG Kendall Simmons out for the year (10 games and counting, he’s on IR)
CB Chad Scott (last 4 games and counting)
NT Casey Hampton (4 games and counting, he’s on IR)
Duce Staley (3 games and counting)
Kendrell Bell (8 games and just reinjured himself this week)
Tommy Maddox (8 games)
Dan Krieder (1 Game)
That’s not even counting Plaxico who got injured this week and is out for at least a couple.
But, if our hallucinagenic buddy wants to think it’s 10 and we just like to bitch – that’s fine, I guess. :-\
Well, Boulware hasn’t played all year - there’s your ten right there. Ogden’s missed five games, Heap’s been out since week 2, Jamal Lewis served his 2 game suspension and might not play Sunday against the Pats, Travis Taylor missed 4, Kelly Gregg missed 2, Terrell Suggs missed 1, McAllister missed 2, Zastudil’s out 3-4 weeks now (do punters count?). We don’t have ten guys out for the season either, but we’re not as well off as you seem to think.
No, Kendrall Bell certainly counts for however many games he missed. Same with Duce. Tommy hasn’t been out since week 2, he’s been ready to go for a few weeks now.
Who is Kendall Simmons? I don’t recognize the name, and I’m relatively familiar with most of the Steelers roster. (Madden 2005 is good for something, at least.) Was he a starter? Other than him, I count roughly 13 starter-games missed in your list. Add 6 to any of the guys in the list on injured reserve.
I wonder what the average starter-games missed is leaguewide. It’s far too much of a pain in the ass to dig up, and this debate is meaningless without that number. But I think we can all agree that the Browns have been hit the hardest by injuries in the AFC North. Then again, the Browns suck. hehheh.
When I say starters, btw, I include nickelbacks, slot receivers, and fullbacks, as they get involved in quite a few plays without subbing a starter out.
Don’t count Lewis, that’s not an injury. Short of that, I get around 36, which is way more than I expected. Punters absolutely count, as do kickers and returners of either kind.
Now I’m really wondering what the average is. I don’t doubt that the Giants are at the high end, and probably the top in this two year span, but now I’m scared to look it up for fear it might be in triple digits.
I wonder what the least-injured team has? I’d amend my thinking to guess around 25 for the season.
Also, I suppose preseason injuries would have to count, though I find that dubious. Seubert was the starter at guard, but went down in preseason and was put on the PUP list, and then we picked up the Cleveland guy to take his place, who also promptly went down (on IR, I think) in preseason, and finally we picked up Jason Whittle to replace both of them. Whittle is a fine starter, as he started on our superbowl team in 2000, but I’m not sure that I could legitimately claim 32 starter-games missed by the two guys he replaced, seeing as how Jason has pretty much won the job on his own merit. (Seubert is good, though, and I do wish he’d return already.)
You might want to factor in not just starters, but what calibre of starter. Boulware, Lewis, Ogden, Heap and McCalister are all Pro Bowlers. That’s a lot of serious talent to go without.
Kendall Simmons - out since preseason: 0*
Tommy Maddox - out since week 2: 3 (named backup after 3 games)
Casey Hampton - out since Dallas (week 4 or 5?): 5 (5 games + bye = week 11)
Chad Scott - out since Dallas: 3 (I thought Dallas was 3 games ago)
Duce Staley - out since Philadelphia: 2 (I thought Philly was 2 games ago)
3+5+3+2=13
Notice how I said “Other than [Kendall Simmons], I count roughly 13”
You can’t go by that, because it’s too subjctive, and it misses the concept of a 53 man roster where only 45 can dress. Every starter is important, every roster spot precious.
Although if we wanted to ascribe impact players more weight to their missed time, the Giants will look even worse off, as will the Browns.
The Ravens do have some key injuries, most notably Heap. (Sucks for Boller, but just imagine next year.) Again, Lewis is not an injury, so he does not count. Boulware and McCalister are both top drawer; every bit as painful to lose as Heap and Strahan. But then again, you picked up Deion, which you most likely would not have had McCalister been healthy. That’s why I said I was dubious about preseason injuries.
Still, I concede that the Ravens have been hit pretty hard by injuries, though not nearly as hard as the Browns and Giants. The Steelers? Not so much. Mainly because every team is getting more than their fair share of injuries this year, and the Steelers seem (to me) to be at around the median.
Ask a Panthers fan if he thinks the Ravens and Steelers have had it bad.
Even if you only count Maddox out for 4 games, I still get 33.