Same for us, but with federal research centers (think Argonne, INL, etc). We can’t enter with our phones. And as I have said above, we have to setup highly secure environments just to access CUI. These idiots were definitely dealing with CUI or higher, on personal phones over consumer apps. If we did the same thing, as low-level nobodies, we’d be up shit creek without our funding.
For folks that don’t normally deal with federal regs, this is a HUUUGGGE deal. Feds don’t fuck around. Unless they are planning on carpet bombing a shit-hole country (their words, not mine). Then you can do whatever the fuck you want apparently.
I used to have to have inspections from the Dept of Ag and the Gov’t guy started telling me about the Camel Ranch down the road. He told me about the old married couples health problems, financial difficulties and legal trouble their kid was in. I asked them how many camels were over there. He said, “I can’t tell you that. Confidential.”
I thought he was kidding, but remembered he had no sense of humor.
This is what brought down Hillary Clinton…the fact that she refused to give up her blackberry, and instead opted for a private email server that would accommodate that device. Secure government email servers wouldn’t allow blackberries because of the security risks.
Yeah, I’m sure that’s “the” reason and not all the other stuff, including years and years of Fox News mudslinging, Russian interference, and the general shit-baggery of Congressional Republicans. If it wasn’t Benghazi and Buttery Males, they would have found something else and the brainwashed zombie masses who vote for them would have eaten it up like manna from heaven
Let’s face it - to the extent they care about secure communications, it is (1) to use as a wedge issue to attack perceived enemies and (2) to deny they have no fucking clue how to secure their own
I would feel just a little better if the prez took this even half as seriously as his tax returns leaking. Not that I would expect him to, but just saying it’s a witch hunt shows his old pattern, and shows no concern for our nation and national security.
Again not that I would expect him to care, but for the sake of our nation it would be nice to see him saying ‘heads will roll’ as opposed to ‘this is nothing but a witch hunt’. As it stands Signal is not the problem, it is a symptom of the problem.
(praying for our nation, and the peace of God to come to us all.)
There’s also the suggestion that Steven Witkoff may have been participating on this group chat from Russia on a personal device. My private sector employer has strict rules about taking corporate devices overseas, even to friendly nations.
Didn’t trump personally saw 3/4 of the way through the tail rotor drive shaft of the A.C. helicopter carrying his Board of Directors that was about to fire him for corporate embezzlement…?