W was obviously out of the loop on this. It would put an end to his master plan of an eight-year golfing binge on the taxpayers’ dime.
Hey, he isn’t the only guy who did that!
IANAB but with the Obama one, I believe the idea is that he was born in Kenya but birth registered in the US so that he would be an automatic US citizen no questions asked and nothing about being a future President.
i believe he was born in Hawaii … but since the annexation was illegal it was the Kingdom of Hawaii and thus he should not have been President.
I wonder if the South could use that argument. :dubious:
Right. But here’s a MUCH easier way for him to be an automatic US citizen… STAY IN HAWAII TO BEGIN WITH.
I mean, if Obama’s mother is known to have lived in Kenya around the time of his birth, but the official story is that she flew from Kenya to Hawaii to have the baby, then flew back, then, well, it makes at least some sense to wonder whether in fact she never flew back. But making up a trip from Hawaii to Kenya and back, for a pregnant lady, who didn’t have a lot of money, whose sole result would be to make it much HARDER for some mysterious long-term conspiracy to come to fruition…
Also, if you honestly believe that Hawaii is not fully legally part of the USA, you are, to quote Rex Tillerson, a f***ing moron.
This is the same argument used for why the income tax is illegal, because the last state to ratify the 16th Amendment was Ohio, which was allegedly illegally admitted to the United States.
Does it? I mean, without really being someone who has ever cared too much about the topic, I’m 99.5% sure that Oswald was the only shooter and acted alone… there have just been too many investigations that failed to turn up anything contrary to that for me to believe otherwise.
But it’s not even in the same category of stupid as something like birtherism, or chemtrails, or lizard people, or flat earth, or hollow earth.
Think about it this way: Suppose that evidence comes to light tomorrow absolutely concretely proving beyond all doubt that one of those conspiracies HAS been true all along:
-Obama was in fact born in Kenya
or
-Contrails are in fact chemicals sprayed by the government to keep us docile
or
-Queen Elizabeth is a lizard person
or
-The earth is flat
or
-The earth is hollow
or
-Some group of non-supernatural humans hired Oswald to assassinate JFK, and then hired Jack Ruby to kill him
Of those six, one would (to me) cause a reaction of “holy shit, those people were right all along” and five would cause a reaction of suddenly questioning every assumption I’ve ever made about how reality works.
Humor-it is a difficult concept.
The “cancel the election” thing goes back to at least Nixon’s time when it was promulgated by the left.
Yep, FEMA death camps started off as FBI death camps where the government was going to throw leftist activists and black protestors into after Nixon declared martial law when we reinvaded Vietnam. It was a major part of Jim Jones preaching.
IIRC, they filled every seat that didn’t have their targets with their own employees (leaving one seat for their assassin). After their assassin did his assassin thing, they landed the airliner long enough to let him disembark. Once he was off the plane, it took off again. Then the MI5 guys blew up the plane.
WHY, Trevalyan? They could have just saved Shibumi’s assassin fee by loading the plane up the way they did anyway, left Shibumi out of the plot, and blown up the plane anyway.
At the other end of the spectrum, I feel the “Moon landings were faked” is one of the least stupid ones. Money and motive.
Flat/hollow earthers are the bottom of the barrel for med in terms of the stupidity of their conspiracy, and anti-vaxxers for the damage potential of their beliefs.
How about a person can sort of believe things but not be a full on believer? Or who see things as just another possible reason for a phenomenon? Or who wish to study something or explore an issue for the sake of finding the real truth?
Like for example “bigfoot”. No, I don’t see them as some ape subgroup but I do feel people have encountered… “something” out there. People who have no reason to make up a story and can tell fake from real.
So to me, the goal is the pursuit of knowledge. Something is out there, I just don’t know what it is. Science alone cannot explain everything.
like the Sports conspiracy theories:
NBA playoffs are fixed, so popular players and/or large markets win. Except when they don’t (San Antonio), but that’s to throw us off the path. Then again, Tim Donaghy did show this CT was not completely out of left field.
Seems dated nowadays, but Nebraska in the 1990s won three College Football national titles. They did this by using “county scholarships”: some state law allows one student per county to get free tuition. We’d give them to football recruits, so they wouldn’t count against the NCAA limit.
As a Husker fan, I’d always retort “Do you seriously think the NCAA wouldn’t catch on to such an obvious ploy? C’mon, my Huskers can be a little more clever.”
Humans intentionally created the HIV virus.
This isn’t possible because the virus HIV evolved from (SIV) wasn’t discovered until at least a decade after the first HIV cases were diagnosed. You can’t create the virus if you haven’t discovered the virus it evolved from yet.
“Something?” I’m afraid I agree with Ursula Vernon wherebigfoot is concerned.
Yes, but as with most conspiracy theories, any information contradicting the theory can be hand-waved away by expanding the scope of the conspiracy. “They” knew about SIV a decade earlier and experimented with it in a lab to make it infect humans. It took a decade for scientists not involved in the conspiracy to isolate the virus and discover what “they” already knew.
I Am Not A Boob? Bozo? Butthead? Bartender? 
:smack:
Birther…i think.