As much as I loved the responses from others before me, let’s agree with you! Knives are just as bad as guns!
So you should have no problem turning in all your guns and keep all the knives you want. If you say they’re interchangeable to distract from the gun discussion, then they have to be interchangeable for the guns that you own as well.
Oddly enough, I haven’t heard of anyone making that comparison following through. It’s as if they really don’t think that guns and knifes are the same thing but they say that to make a really poor point in a debate.
Nice catch! And four of the dead were four of the five attackers.
So let’s see: five guys with knives killed 29 people between them. So in a knife attack with an exceptionally high death toll, each knife-wielding assailant killed 6 people. A guy with an AR-15 would just be getting warmed up at that point. :mad:
There are a lot more now and I only have to go back to 2009 to illustrate this point:
Earlier in the thread someone had to be corrected when they said that other countries with “plenty of guns” didn’t have the same problems.
We don’t just have some guns. We may have had them for a long time and other countries may have some too. But trying to make it out like the US doesn’t currently have a metric shit ton more guns now than in previous years and other countries is disingenuous.
Somehow it reminds me of a FB meme directed at those in favor of stricter gun control laws; it says “Abortion kills 300,000 a year, but you don’t want to ban THAT.”
Exactly why I won’t even entertain trying to explain my points to people like Derleth and their hyper inflated sense of intelligence, especially thinking a person wouldn’t know what a Main Battle Tank or Air burst weapons are. Perhaps in his sabbatical from lackluster IT work and programming, he took up reading history and in his infinite wisdom forgot to realize history teaches lessons, a big one is that disarming a populace opens the door to tyranny at worst and upsetting the status quo of those who earned their right in society. Or maybe he feels like a big man online because in his Red State, his opinion doesn’t matter. People like him will reflexively derail others to suit his own delusional fantasy of reality, liked to an Apple commercial. Pay no mind. The progressive argument is a detracting and cyclical one. Never changes. You can’t fix stupid. Just let them waste their energy when so they don’t have enough to pursue their terrible ideation of what America should be, instead of preserving its sanctity. It’s a winning situation for those of us who care about preserving the integrity of the U.S.
Watch them spin this to fit their agenda… it’ll be great to see how far they go.
The mods have two ways of proving that you’re a sock: you admit it (care to admit it?), or you sign in from the same IP. Presumably your IP has changed, so, like OJ, everyone knows you did it, but for now you walk.
But seriously, just out of curiosity, what was your prior user name?
Like the band Live’s song “Overcome” became the soundtrack for 9/11, expressing how every one felt. ( Live donated the profits of the song to charity, btw.)
The European perspective: gun ownership is a privilege, not a right. You don’t give out driving licenses to someone who cannot drive (except in certain Third World countries where corruption is a way of life) but in the wonderful USA just about anyone who has a pulse can buy a gun.
Next point from Europe: it is rare to get a permit for anything other than target rifles and pistols, hunting rifles and shotguns. Why does the USA permit pump guns and repeaters? They are mankillers, not hunting weapons. I’m sure the NRA has an answer for this, it always has.
Someone somewhere threw in all the old chestnut about Hitler being able to take over Germany because there were no guns in private ownership. Firstly, I’ll bet serious money that the majority of guns in legal private ownership belonged to more or less right-wing types who were pretty much pro-Hitler anyway. But Germany had been disarmed after WW1 - it was again after WW2 for a while. Private citizens fighting tyranny? Take a look at the success of the resistance movements in Nazi-occupied Europe, and these people were able to get (some) military weapons. Urban guerilla warfare as practiced by the likes of the IRA works up to a point, but in general a military of paramilitary force just overruns the amateurs and the loners.
Short answer to stopping Hitler back then: action from other countries. But he was democratically elected (yea, really), so that made it harder to storm in and demand a replacement, and he was also rabidly anti-communist, which went down well with his neighbors. By the time it was obvious that he was dangerous the Western democracies found they did not have the military means to stop him, having run down their respective militaries.
However there are various factors that make that impossible, whereas we have a number of examples of populations being disarmed successfully. Or of common-sense gun regulation being implemented.
Also of course we could enumerate the ways that this is a false analogy, but I would feel stupid even needing to type it.