I still like how he pairs Keith Richards with SRV. I honestly can’t come up with a bigger sign that someone knows nothing about music.
No - actually, you haven’t. You haven’t said much of anything other than:
- I don’t like how Classic Rock is packaged and shoved at me.
- I don’t need to listen to that old Boomer music.
- You can’t tell me what is good music. And understanding the context and history of music adds nothing to appreciating the music.
- I can tell you what I know is good.
- Everyone I don’t like musically are wankers that are part of the Boomer-Musical-Industrial Complex - they aren’t worthy of evaluating the quality of their music on their own merits
You argue like one.
I like you, you’re silly. I am not sure if you are playing along or if my satire has become indistinguishable from reality, but either way this post made me laugh.
On a serious note, I am a Slint fan. I own Spiderland and I have seen them play live when they got back together in the early 00s (playing with Pinback, who also kick ass you should check them out, and I want to say Broken Social Scene or some other equally unlikely pairing. It was a bizarre show with almost no overlapping fan base other than me and a couple of friends) But when you bring up Slint in this kind of argument, particularly when you pair it with Fugazi and other similar bands you are essentially pulling out your musical appreciation dick and asking it to be measured by the group. I figured you knew that or I wouldn’t have brought up the Aquabats in my post. And hey, props for copping to Third Eye Blind love, not many people will admit to that, but like I said they are way better than they get credit for being.
Blink can still go lick my left nut.
I never said a lot of that, and I know you aren’t replying only directly to me but I think people who are making those judgments are off base. You aren’t an immature kid with crap taste in music, you are a hipster with a mild superiority complex. You know how you can tell it’s true, because it pisses you off when you are called on it. But like I said, you are funny, so that’s cool.
emphasis mine
You picked up on that did you?
Huh. Weird.
+1
Is there any other kind?
Severe superiority complexes aren’t uncommon. 
Half of the sound from a speaker goes back into the loudspeaker box and bounces around, gets out of phase various ways, and then impinges on the other speakers in the box, or comes out the “bass reflex” hole. If the inside of the loudspeaker box is very well padded, that internal sound, half of the sound energy from the speakers, is wasted, but does not interfere with what’s heard. The improved clarity makes the loudspeaker sound louder at lower volume settings. The moral is that turning up the rhetorical “volume” of one’s communications is less effective than being clear.
Trying to decode the OP, I think the foundational problem expressed concerning classic rock has to do with a misperception of ex(tinct) hippies. Now even Wikipedia gives a very establishment description of the hippie so-called movement. In any culture there can be persons, even affluent, who can’t find what their looking for, and so become, for instance, bohemians or beatniks. The only real indication of beatnik culture to reach mainstream America was the disparaged character Maynard G. Krebs on the Early 60’s TV show Dobie Gillis. In the meantime, stereo FM, records and cassettes were advancing into the middle and working classes. Suddenly there was youth culture music from England, a country previously only much known from history books, and from American blacks, so much enghettoed as to be nearly from another country. And Vietnam, the war, began to hiss like the lit fuse to a third, nuclear, truly final, war. A rather weird mixture of folk music (looking wistfully to the past), protest music (so much to protest), and get high and forget it all music (not to look ahead at such a dark future) easily spread out and mixed in with Elvis, Motown, and the British invasion.
All music is message music. If you don’t understand the message, you may not get the music. The hippie counter culture, if I may so pontificate as to speak for that, expressed a disenfranchisement from an establishment which even if not so bad, indeed quite good, in some respects, seemed to be so hypnotized everywhere by an unconsciousness of commercialism that it was allowing itself, and America, and the world, to be sucked into an abyss. Thereupon followed an impossible mixing, or mating, of opposites, indeed enemies, as the music of Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, the Beetles, and the Supremes was joined by “Turn, Turn, Turn”, “Eve of Destruction”, “War Pigs”, “Plastic Fantastic Lover”, “Hey You”, “Ohio”, and “The Soft Parade”. At the time, rock and roll radio stations attracted audience by, even if occasionally, playing that music, along with “Louie Louie” and the like. Current “classic” rock stations prefer to forget about all that type of thing. Forget them too.
So, does anybody here like Cee Lo Green, Lady Gaga, Hayes Carll, or Foster the People? “I know it’s only rock and roll, but I like it,” Rolling Stones. You see, I kind of have the same problem as the OP, but the other time line around. I was digging current music up until around the 90’s somewhere, and then came the 00’s (zeroes) and they were zero, to me, including the so-called classic rock stations. I don’t think it’s just that I don’t have as much time to listen; I can still turn the radio on in the car, and then I turn it off. I’ll listen to CD mixes. Recently I’ve been paying more attention to new music, and there is some I like a lot, but there is so much new music now it’s hard to find. I don’t believe in generation gaps about music. The classic rock stations play not everything from the past, but some old songs that were kind of popular, over and over, until they’re dead. On the current rock stations, if there even is one, there is so much to choose from that they seem to end up with a lot of crap, new crap, but crap. So it seems like, if I want to find “good” music, that is, good to me, either old or new, I need to hunt around on the Internet, or even the TV. “When the music’s over, turn out the lights,” the Doors.
punch line loser, fuck you and the horse you rode in on!
Ed Sullivan used to have new groups, young performers, on the show. The radio played those performers, and others. Now the classic rock and (old) easy listening stations outnumber the new/youth rock stations about seven to one. It’s kind of like the new generation of “old guys” doesn’t want to give youth music of now the same chance they had. But if that is what punch line loser means, he doesn’t express it very well.
I liked it better when there was just one “oldies” station (50’s to early 60’s), and the other rock stations and soft rock/easy listening stations mixed it up from the 60’s to the present. It’s all rock and roll to me.
Generation gaps are for assholes.
If I have any beef with classic rock, it’s with the programming at classic rock radio stations. They ignore the literally hundreds of thousands of hours of music that fits the genre to focus on the same 15 hours or so of “classic hits.” They all seem to think that say, Aerosmith only has 3 songs and 2 of them are “Sweet Emotion.” I like Aerosmith and I like “Sweet Emotion” but for chrissakes play something fucking else!
When I’m at the bar, I do hate it when people sing along to over-played classic rock songs (i.e. “don’t stop believing” by Journey). It’s a good song and I love listening to it on my own, but I hate when people sing it.
Radio stations plays music that appeals to the demographic with the most disposable income. As long as “Classic Rock” brings in the dollars, the format will thrive. If the Classic Rock haters want some other kind of music on the radio, they need to start spending more money.
Television and Fugazi. Calling My Bloody Valentine, Slint and Sonic Youth punk rock stretches the term ‘punk rock’ to mean ‘music I like’.
I think AOR/classic rock stations are programmed by using a “turn it up!” litmus test. An iPod is plugged into a jobsite radio at a large auto body or repair shop where about 50 people are hard at work. If someone yells “Turn it up!” when a song is played, it goes on the air.
Think about it …
… I leave the giants stranded at the riverside! Race back to the farm, to dream with my uncle at the fireside! ♫♪♪♫♪♪♫♫♪♪♫♪♪♪♪♫♪♪
yawn (drill drill) (clank)
♫♪♪♫♪♪♫♫♪♪♫♪♪♪♪♫♪♪ Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet emoooooooooooootion! Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet emoooooooooooootion! You talk about things that nobody cares! ♪♪♫♪♪♪♪♫♪♪
TURN IT UP, MAN! FUCKING A!
I like punk too, but it is very un-punk to make a thread like this, caring what other people listen to is pretty much the definition of conformity. I like some of the OP’s music but I wouldn’t make a thread like this.
That said some of the same people in here calling the OP stupid are the same types (and possibly actually the same posters, can’t remember) who made some of the most moronic comments ever in a prior metal thread… in other words, the people yelling at OP saying music is subjective actually believe their music is objectively better than the younger generations’ music, which makes me amused at how worked up they are that some people think their rock sucks.
I like Boston, The Eagles, Jimi, Zepp, Frank Zappa and other classic rock. I also like lots of music that plenty of SDMB posters have said is only for self-indulgent teenagers (I’m 26). I couldn’t care less what other people listen to since I very rarely am FORCED to listen to anything I don’t like and plenty of music I like is being produced.
But you old people’s classic rock is nothing special and it is not any more timeless than anything else, you’re not special and neither are people my age, 250 years from now no one will know who Queen or Slayer was except for historians.
I detect a lot of baby boomer exceptionalism in this thead.
Loser.
Meh. I’m old (and cranky) enough that when I hear of Fugazi I think of Marillion’s second album. When I hear the name Phish I still think of Marillion too.
Never heard of Television, but I imagine they can get the hell off my lawn.
I likes me punk old and original.
Television’s recording history, in their original incarnation, was 1975-1978.
Maybe I should take a listen then. 