The Tulsi Gabbard Presidential campaign thread

Far be it from me to get in the way of a good old fashioned spittle flecked freakout, but here’s an actual link to Tulsi’s actual views and voting record on various issues.

People can say whatever they want about their views on their own websites. That doesn’t negate things they’ve said or done in public.

Well then it’s a darned good thing the linked website doesn’t include any links to legislation she’s sponsored or originated, links to speeches she’s made or to public statements she’s given then. Whew, good to know the link is only comprised of completely unvetted, unverified and fact free statements made solely by the candidate. Gee, where would we be without you?

I started composing a lengthy reply to this but then deleted because I decided you can’t be serious. Suffice to say, I will weigh a thorough piece by a source I trust like the New Yorker more heavily than a politician’s own website.

Indeed. I can tell you she is highly regarded in Hawaii, and the remarks about her in this thread seem to be about a completely different person. She really has no chance for this nomination though and will no doubt drop out early. But I would vote for my left nut over Chump, so if it was between her and him, she would always get my vote. But there will be no such choice.

Well, yeah, that was kind of where I was going with that, but I softened my post a bit. She’s superficially charismatic, & a former social conservative fed up with the GOP is a neat kind of person to have in Congress. (If she can show that there’s more to her than opposing “regime change wars,” & she moves away from BJP, maybe someday she’ll be taken more seriously.) Given her career to date, right now, she’s a no-hoper for President.

Yeah, that’s some Mike Pence shit.

I believe I speak for most of my fellow Americans when I ask WHO?

Everyone said that about Barack Obama. And everyone also said that Trump had no chance of winning. The conventional wisdom isn’t always correct. I really don’t know honestly if Gabbard could win the election, but I do think her chances are way above Elizabeth Warren’s and Bernie Sanders’, but somewhere below Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.

Yes, she’s the Democratic Ron Paul, loudly popular on a narrow slice of the Internet but not so much in the actual world.

It reminds me of Ron Paul fanatics trying to claim that the Ron Paul newsletter had absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul.

As I said about Hillary, if she gets the D nomination, I’ll support and vote for her.

But she’s not getting the D nomination. Even in the political calculus of “how does this impact the EC”, she’s a non-factor. The Dems will put somebody from Texas in the P or VP slot before they put somebody from Hawaii.

Hm. A Bernie Sanders supporter, who is not automatically and unquestioningly in lockstep about abortion. So the first means the moderate left won’t want her, and the second means that the harder left won’t want her. But she’s popular in Hawaii. Sarah Palin was popular in Alaska, and she made it all the way to the VP slot, so anything can happen, I guess. But it probably won’t.

She’s a Congresswoman, but most of the talk seems to be about her foreign policy. That’s unusual. She’s got military experience, which is all to the good. She thinks we can go to 100% renewable energy, so that is a lost cause. She doesn’t say much that I can see about the deficit, which is my bugaboo, but maybe it is the usual “promise to soak the rich and change the subject”.

I don’t see much to make her stand out from the crowd. I doubt if the average voter cares all that much about relations between the US and India. She’s Hindu - whoopy-ding for her. At least she’s not 70 years old.

Regards,
Shodan

Surprisingly agreeing with Shodan here, actually the things that make her stand out from the crowd are all negative. Obviously would take her over Trump or any other R, but right now shes at the bottom of my choices.

A very good analogy. She’s got some supporters who are very loud on Twitter but they’re also the type that likely voted for Jill Stein or sat at home and pouted last election. She doesn’t have the fanatical supporters of Ron Paul. Ron Paul was very good at promoting Ron Paul, Gabbard not so much.

She’ll be stuck on the kiddy table debates and probably drop out before the Iowa caucuses.

She might be running for the VP slot.

I guess she was the latest contestant on the new game show “he/she is now famous so let’s run a google search for non PC comments in the past”

Blatantly homophobic, is that what you mean by “non PC”?

She decided to be a “liberal” about 8 years ago and in that, only as a policy matter as afaik she personally remains a social conservative.

a Dem social conservative ? I guess the Dems will lock her up and throw away the key .

They still exist, it is just that they are not particularly common anymore. It’s simply not a large enough constituency to get you elected to national office in of itself. In a presidential run it is definitely not going to get you through the nomination process. A socially liberal Republican( still a handful of those as well )is similarly not going anywhere.