It means a bunch of countries the Saudis have financed to fight their war on their behalf.
Both sides have proxies in Yemen. Iran is backing the Houthi regime. Saudi Arabia is backing the Hadi regime and various other anti-Houthi groups.
Nonsense. There are plenty of groups and governments in the Middle East that are far worse than the United States government.
That’s not saying we’re perfect. We’ve done some terrible things. And we should be trying to do better.
But we’re hardly the worst thing that’s ever happened to the Middle East.
I am sincerely trying to think of one. ISIS maybe? I mean thats extremely faint praise.
Done only terrible things would be accurate. And admittedly some very stupid things. But I guess thats susbsumed under “terrible”
Last 20 years (ie the era which matters) you absolutley have.
Its like blowing up a dam and saying yeah we have done bad stuff, but why doesn’t anyone blame the water, thats whats doing the damege, we only used a small charge once
He said that on 26 December 2018. Like everything else he says, it was a lie.
Troops and missile defense equipment heading to SA and UAE. I guess we’re nothing more than their bitch now, just another dog to bark at (and maybe bite) anyone approaching the House of Saud.
I agree but only one is deliberately mass murdering people by starvation.
No. Saudi Arabia is directly involved besides its support for proxies. The Houthis are not Iranian proxies, though they have received some support.
“Until now, and apart from Tehran’s strong pro-Houthi rhetoric, very little hard evidence has turned up of Iranian support to the Houthis. There has been evidence of some small arms shipments and, likely, military advice from Hezbollah and Revolutionary Guard officers, who may have helped the Houthis in firing missiles into Saudi territory and targeting Saudi vessels in the Red Sea. Meanwhile, U.S. and British military and intelligence support to the Saudi-led coalition exceeds by many factors any amount of support the Houthis have received from Tehran.”
“While the Houthis are tied to Iran, Iran does not control their decision-making; according to multiple interviews with U.S. officials and the Houthis themselves, Houthi leaders flatly ignored Tehran when the latter advised them not to take Sanaa. Until now, Iran appears to have done just enough to antagonize and frighten the Saudis — thus ensuring that they are bogged down in Yemen’s quicksand, spending billions of dollars on a war they are nowhere close to winning.”
“Tehran’s influence in Yemen is marginal. Iran’s support for the Houthis has increased in recent years, but it remains low and is far from enough to significantly impact the balance of internal forces in Yemen. Looking ahead, it is unlikely that Iran will emerge as an important player in Yemeni affairs. Iran’s interests in Yemen are limited, while the constraints on its ability to project power in the country are unlikely to be lifted. Tehran saw with the rise of the Houthis a low cost opportunity to gain some leverage in Yemen. It is unwilling, however, to invest larger amounts of resources. There is, as a result, only limited potential for Iran to further penetrate Yemen.”
To take this another way, back here in the USA. Would you say you have known more Iranians or Saudis?
I’d say more Iranians.
Once again,
. I’m not sure the relevance of this. There are indeed more Iranians in the US than Saudis. A whole lot more, by a factor of considerably more than 100:1. But that’s because there was a substantial diaspora after the 1979 Revolution. There has been no diaspora from SA because it has been relatively stable and is relatively prosperous.
And? There are also a lot more Iranians in the US than Belgians.
The US should generally stay out of conflicts for the next 20 years anywhere in the world. That includes stopping sponsoring color revolutions and trying to inch NATO towards the Russian border. 20 years of intense focus on the economy will enable the US maintain the lead over China for the foreseeable future. The Chinese can get involved in the ME shit if they want; I think they will soon realize they are trying to straighten a dog’s tail.
Nations don’t prosper by looking inward and shutting off the rest of the world. You know who learned that the hard way? China. They tried it for 500 years and nearly got eaten alive as a result.
Now, I’m not saying the U.S. shouldn’t apply its power in a prudent and thoughtful manner, including in the case at hand. Of course it should. But withdrawing completely isn’t the answer.
Getting into expensive, optional and unnecessary foreign conflicts is the fastest way for great nations to collapse. See Rome. Ottomans. Spain, various iterations of China.
Which is why power should be applied wisely.
This should be dragged before the UN to certify Iran’s role.
Once this is done I see no reason why Saudi Arabia can’t fight it’s own battles. We can provide intelligence support and sell them weapons.
As for the region, we should collectively prevent any more boarding of ships by Iran. Put drones and AWACs in the area and remove any targets that come within 1000 yards of a ship.