What, you think black people are going to stick around during the Zombiepocalypse? When trouble happens, white people stick around to investigate. Black people just run.
In the graphic novel, winter and cold did have an effect on zombies. Many of them were too frozen to move, even in Georgia (which apparently suffered from a few inches of snow :dubious: )
That’s an interesting idea - all the black folk are off in a smart place, doing smart things. 
Hey! The new issue of Entertainment Weekly has a cover story on The Walking Dead, with quotes and some mild spoilers from Darabont and Kirkman. Perhaps most interesting is this: “Kirkman says to his comic fans: ‘You may not have that insider knowledge you think you have.’” Reportedly, Kirkman “notes that his early issues were written in fear that the comic wouldn’t last, and he wanted to cover as much turf as he could in case it got canceled.” So there are things he and Darabont will explore that are not comic canon.
Mild spoilers from the article (and noted as such in the article as well):
Regarding Shane:Shane does not get killed off like he does in the comic (this is the point that spurred the above quote). "Darabont says all things Rick and Lori and Shane will be fully explored next year."Merle:" - will remain MIA during the final two episodes."There’s a couple more notes from Darabont regarding characters and story lines from the comic that he’d like to use in the series, but no real major plot points are revealed. An interesting piece, even if the headline writer got carried away.
Bumping this thread because I’m now catching up on my DVRing and have hit episode 4. I’ll probably see the final two episodes this evening, but will thank everyone for not spoiling it in this thread.
First, I’m surprised at the number of people in this thread perturbed about Rick going back to grab the bag of guns when there was a full minute long conversation back at camp about a radio inside and a debt needing to be repaid and how the CBs didn’t have the same frequency, etc etc etc. Did everybody (save one person) just completely miss that? It wasn’t just the guns. It was the walkie talkie he needed!
Secondly, I’m a little perturbed at the resolution to the standoff between Guillermo’s Vatos and Rick’s group. I could understand if that happened during the first standoff when they went in not knowing what to expect, tensions mount and they’re two seconds away from blowing each other’s brains out when the old woman wanders by. But they retreated, regrouped and came up with a master plan of doing the EXACT same thing that utterly failed the first time around. What was Rick hoping to accomplish? What was his exit strategy? He knew he was outnumbered and outgunned and even went into the building outside of what could have been sniper range during the first showdown. If grandma hadn’t wandered by, I don’t see a way they get out of there alive. If they were going to take it in that direction, the one ace in his sleeve that Rick’s got is a hand grenade that he took two episodes before. But that didn’t even get mentioned!
It just would have worked better without the initial strategic retreat.
Yeah, all of the survivors are dumber than a bag of toads. I wonder if they ever put up the “Danger Zombies” sign that the cop’s wife was excited about in the first episode.
I think Rick was hoping that if he just asked really politely they would give him the Korean guy back. Rick’s a dumb-ass. It would have been cool if they aped the thermal detonator scene from Star Wars.
The only intelligent way to resolve the situation would have been to bury half of the guns, and show the hostage where they were buried. This would have given them negotiating power with the Vatos. If Rick didn’t want to give up the guns, he could have had one of the idiots dig up the guns after the hostage thinks they are buried somewhere. But no, in both encounters, Rick made it in the Vatos’s best interest to kill the idiots as quickly as possible. In the first encounter they cleverly hid the guns right outside the wall of the Vatos’s hide out, and in the second they brought the guns in with them.
At least at the end of the episode they thinned the crowd somewhat. I’d like to know what their though process was: “Gee, a zombie walked into our children’s play area, clearly our cunning plan to hide within walking distance of a major metropolitan area was wrong; clearly our tin-cans-on-a-string security system was grossly inadequate; etc. In light of all this, our big plan is to stay in the place we already know we cannot secure!” They were sitting next to a fucking quarry, a great big open area that has multiple exits; multiple exits means that they can’t get bottled up; it looks like they set themselves up on the opposite side of the old pit. They set themselves up in a place where they can’t see the zombies coming, where they can’t hear the zombies coming (in a forest you can’t hear anything). They could have put their backs up against the main pit, and then they would only have had to watch and defend three directions - three directions of barren rock; barren rock, over which the sound of their Home Alone tin-can system would travel. They are all a bunch of morons who deserve to die.
I think an ordinary chain-link fence, at sufficient distance, should provide adequate security. We have observed that the zombies are relatively docile except when their attack instinct is active and one of the two following conditions: they are in-mass or in-mass and cooped up. The zombies are easily redirected by minor obstacles when their attack instinct is inactive: in the first episode we saw the mother zombie attempt to open a door, but she used little force and did not attempt to find an alternate method of entry into the house. However, we know that the zombies will overcome obstacles if their attack response is active; eg this episode. The smallest group that we have seen attack with vigour was the four or five zombies involved in the Fish Fry Massacre. Single walkers attack by shuffling towards their target once their target gets within a few metres; for example, the little girl at the gas station, the walker with no legs, and the first few walkers Rick encountered in Atlanta. In the hospital the walkers confined behind the door were actively trying to break it down, but Rick may have activated their attack response; this could suggest that the walkers only expend great quantities of energy when in a large group and when their attack response has been activated - meaning that the zombie’s response in the hospital may have been independent of their confinement. Having established that a minor obstacle will redirect the zombies, it seems clear that a fence, built far enough away from the humans to prevent the zombies’ attack instinct from being activated, should provide sufficient protection.
I have never known an industrial site that was not fenced in. I think we are supposed to assume that there is no fence because we saw them putting up those ineffective tin cans. It’s an interesting thought as it opens up a large number of safe refuges for the Idiots. Perhaps in season 2 we will see the Idiots going from refuge to refuge, scavenging food, fuel, and survivors as they look for Shangri-La. I hope so, it will get old to watch a bunch of people not getting killed after they do everything in their power to get killed.
My understanding is that the quarry is a former induStrial site that has been converted to public use.
Rick was calling their bluff.
But he could have just as easily called their bluff in the first confrontation. It would have been more strategic for him and more dramatic for the viewer. Win, win, right? The way it went down, he just looks like an idiot who got lucky.