The Walking Dead; 2.10 "18 Miles Out" (open spoilers)

Wait, Hank Hill posts here?!

:smiley:

Thank you.

And on another note, I though the two guards laying there were dead, and in the process of re-animating. They were bitten but not yet fully turned.

Something that’s been bothering me for a while (in general, not specifically about this episode).

When anybody from the group gets overrun by walkers they inevitably find a way to escape. Yet whole military bases get wiped out.

So in this world, if Rick and the gang are acting as stupid as people complain, apparently they’re still a hell of a lot smarter than the military.

I vote for the first two. There was a scene that showed a bunch of opened and empty food cans on the ground next to one of the buildings, and I got the idea that a bunch of people had been living on the school bus (with the pillows and blankets on the seats), so I assumed that maybe everybody had died of starvation because they didn’t want to leave the yard. Or that someone of the group had died, reanimated and then bit everybody else.

I am suspicious of Randall for one reason from before and one reason from tonight. First, he was part of the group that was shooting at Rick, Glen and Herschel in town, and I can see how people would be reluctant to allow someone who’d tried to kill them into an already-fracturing group. Regardless of whether or not he was with the “bad” group for convenience or preference, I don’t think it’s necessarily bad for him to be under a cloud of suspicion.

And although nobody else saw it, his glee and over-the-top reaction to killing the female zombie in the yard makes him less than reliable. He seemed to get a lot of joy out of it, and that makes him unpredictable in a disaster situation.

The interaction between Lori and Maggie bugged me. SHUT UP with the “they come back, we wait here, that’s our job” crap. The writers are definitely fulfilling the “we’re basement-dwelling neckbeards who have had so little interaction with real women we’ll just write all the women as bad stereotypes” expectation.

The whole, we women cook and clean and the men do the zombie killing, talk bothered me as well.

As for Randall, I’m thinking he was part of a group who escaped from prison. And even after saving my life, I’d still be wary about letting him know the location of the barn, although I’d feel like the right thing to do would be to return the favor and spare his life.

I agree that’s a pretty good indicator of “the boy ain’t right”, but I really wish that Rick HAD seen it, because otherwise they have no reason to be very suspicious of him. He should, at this point, feel more allegiance to the group that saved him than to the group that left him, and on top of that there’s no reason to assume that the other group is “bad”. A potential threat to be treated with caution, yes, but not “bad”. Of course they shot at you, you killed two of their people! Maybe they didn’t even like those guys! If Rick’s crew got wind of another group killing their two least favorite members, they probably wouldn’t let it slide, either.

No. Rick and Shane killed them as soon as they arrived.

I am now convinced season one was a fluke. Walking Dead will only ever be, at best, a more stylistic version of Falling Skies.

The line of revelation (from Dale to Lori to Rick) of Otis’s murder is the most unbelievable thing in the show, including the very idea of a Zombies apocalypse.

Dale, with absolutely no reasonable cause, suspects Shane killed Otis. Why? Because Shane set his sight on Rick (but didn’t shoot him) in season one. Oh, and because Dale has known guys like Shane. With that, and only that, he tells Lori “I think he [Shane] left him [Otis] for bait.” Jeez, Dale that’s pretty specific, but you’re leaving out the part about them being stranded in the gym–I mean, there’ no reason to think your telepathy wouldn’t have revealed that too.

Why do this? To create conflict and give Lori a reason to turn Rick against Shane? Doesn’t she already have a reason? All she has to do is tell Rick how hands-y Shane got back at the CDC and it’s over.

There is simply no way for Dale to have known what he knows. But when he presents it to Lori, does she question it? No, she tells Dale he better be real sure about what he’s saying, but then she doesn’t ask how he knows. How do you know, Dale?

But it gets even better. When Rick brings it up, last night, he tells Shane, “I know what really happened." How in the hell do you know what “really” happened, Rick? Is Herschel recording the episodes for you? So let’s see, Rick confronts Shane with an accusation that Shane knows Rick couldn’t possibly know. How does he react? Deny it, of course. Oh, what’s that Shane, you admit it? Whatever.

All of this could easily have been avoided by having Shane leave a clue, just a clue. Maybe a slip of then tongue. Maybe an inconsistency in his retelling of the story. Something. Anything.

Oh yeah, suicide. Surprisingly enough (given the episode), I forgot about that option. :slight_smile:

I meant what Rick did when they first got to the impound lot. The zombie was coming - he wasn’t going to back off just because they weren’t freshly bleeding. It’s not a big deal, anyway - it just bugged me a little.

Not only are zombies becoming as commonplace as seeing a deer in a field, but I think part of seeing that zombie on the way there and the way back was to highlight that they will just keep walking as long as they still have working legs. They don’t stop and rest and get tired like humans.

I thought the reason they got all upset when they found out he knew Maggie from school was that he could find the farm regardless - he knows Maggie, he’d know her family name, he might know where she lived, or he could almost definitely find out.

What was up with the “the cold of winter should kill them off” speech, anyway? First, you’re in Georgia, not the Yukon - it doesn’t get that cold there, does it? Secondly, I find his reasoning suspect - if dying doesn’t slow them down, why should getting a little chilled?

My memory is crap and because of that I forgot who Maggie was and thought she was part of the group, instead of one of Hershel’s daughters.

Still though, maybe he heard the name Maggie at the farm and threw it out without really knowing her. But if he did know her, then it is a problem.

I took it pretty much at face value: Your lazy ass is perched up on the RV all day while we’re down here doing physical work. Regardless of the sexual politics involved, I think I might get a little resentful about that situation myself.

As far as the gender divide goes, I wish they’d show the guys doing some of the domestic stuff and the women carrying guns and pulling down hard labor. Because God knows if I ever faced the ZA, I wouldn’t want to be the first used as bait because I didn’t pull my weight.

And I’ve known people like Dale who stir up drama because of hunches. Unfortunately, there are those, too, who act on said hunches without a hint of evidence because they also like drama. Some of this bunch would fall into this category.

Also, are they ever going to give T-Dog an actual storyline? I mean, they paid lip service over his wound this season, but otherwise, he’s largely ignored. It’s jarring as well that a whole group was left out of this episode. One or two is understandable, but half the cast is ridiculous.

Oh, we might get a few days down in the teens (Farenheit) but it usually doesn’t stay that way for long.

And was I dreaming, or did he say something about using snowmobiles in the winter? (In Georgia? Bwahahahahahahaha!!!)

I thought the same thing. Where the hell are they gonna find snowmobiles in Georgia?

Maybe up in Appalchia?

Why would they need to? It snows here maybe once every three years or so. And it usually melts within a day or two.

Far north edge of Georgia, tail end of the Blue Ridge. Cold(ish) and regular winter snow. Shoot a couple hundred miles northeast of Atlanta and you have a decent chance of spending the winter in snow.

In somebody’s garage? The outbreak started in the summer (or early spring) none of the usual winter supplies (snowblowers, salt, shovels, ice scrapers, etc) are going to be in stores. They aren’t going to be able to raid the local Home Depot for snowblowers and the like. What kind of winter supplies do stores in Georgia even stock when the season hits?

That’s what I was thinking. But then again…

Maybe my Georgia geography is rusty, but if they were headed to Ft. Benning from Atalnta-area, wouldn’t they be going south?

ETA: IIRC, Benning is down in the SW corner of Georgia, fairly close to the GA-AL state line.

I don’t think they’re all that far from Atlanta. Doesn’t that whole city shut down at an inch of snow for lack of a plow?

It’s T-Dog but I call him T-Bone because of the whole zombies want to eat him thing.

I heard his part will be getting bigger. I hope so. I really like him.