The Wandering Thule ventures North again - planning stage

Whilst PT has never considered himself to be an inveterate traveler bitten by the bug, we have clocked up the odd km or so in the past couple of years. :upside_down_face:

The next venture is for the northern summer of 2027 where for a couple of weeks in July our cricket club is following the ENG vs AUS Ashes Tour. Those couple of weeks will be more fun than a barrel of frogs of itself and are fully organised and catered.

But this will represent a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to visit the UK and hence I am planning to extend the tour with say a fortnight both pre and post tour on a personal agenda. Two weeks in Scotland can be readily filled twice over, Culloden, distilleries, highland train trips, ancestorial places of interest plus Edinburgh etc.

But what would the assembled Dope consider to be the “must sees” and “curiosities if you are so bent” of a fortnight spent in south England and in/around London. Unlikely I’ll have vehicle access. Not big on crowds. Have eclectic interests.

KInd regards
PT

There are plenty of threads here asking the same thing…
So I’ll just add that I’ll buy you a pint* when you’re here.

*Haha. “a pint” - like we’d stop at one !

The Sir John Soane’s Museum in London. One of my favorites - it’s a house packed to the rafters with stuff.

There’s quite a lot of stuff in the south of England, do you have anything more to go on than ‘eclectic’? Also no interest in stopping off anywhere north on the way to Scotland?

With the way the UK public transport system works, it makes more sense to me to consider travel time than to look by region if you don’t have a car - it’s easier, faster and even cheaper to visit, say, Manchester (John Rylands library is highly recommended) from London than it is to visit Cornwall.

Not sure quite what you’re looking for, but here are some ideas for some off-the-beaten-track stuff. If this is your thing I’ll think of a few more.

Bristol is a real cool city, young and vibrant. The docks extend right into the heart of the city; it’s not an industrial area now, but repurposed for leisure. The sheds (warehouses, identified by the letters of the alphabet) have been largely converted to restaurants and bars, and even on a mild Saturday in February (!!) the waterside was jumping, packed with people eating and drinking – Lord knows what it’s like on a summer Friday night (@SanVito might know as well).

I wrote some stuff about the city’s complex relationship with its past elsewhere, starting with why we chose to visit:

First, I’ve never been. Second, it has a reputation for being a cool place. Thirdly, there was that Edward Colston thing, and I really don’t know how well that is known outside the UK, so I’ll recap. Back in the day, the city elders erected a statue of Edward Colston, noted philanthropist and - uh - slave trader. Yeah, for a while Bristol was a real big player in the slave trade. However, as you might have imagined, in more recent times there has been a degree of hostility towards the statue. Bristol has an extremely diverse population, which was annoyed (read: furious) that the city council was basically sitting on their hands over the matter. So that when Black Lives Matter erupted, a crowd neatly resolved the situation by tearing the statue down and throwing [it] in the harbor.

Four people were identified and prosecuted (“The Colston Four”). And here’s the thing: despite the fact that they very obviously did it (something they didn’t even deny - though they did seek to justify it) the jury refused to find them guilty.

There’s a (free) museum in M-Shed, which is where Colston’s statue ended up (on its side). The exhibit tells the story, and features, almost as an afterthought, a framed super-cool t-shirt which I yearn for: a picture of the empty plinth, and above it in huge letters “BRISTOL” (We took a selfie in front of the plinth, of course).

There’s a lot more to see in Bristol - the market hall, Queen Square, Clifton Suspension Bridge, Banksy artwork and other fine street art etc etc,. Slave trader philanthropy funded many things in Bristol – hospitals, works on the Cathedral – and it’s interesting to see how the city is dealing with its past.

Now, from Bristol it’s a short train ride to Devizes, a handsome West-of-England market town. There’s a lovely view from the Market Place down Northgate Street to Wadworth’s Brewery, a beautiful old building. A mile beyond (and we didn’t know this when we stopped off there, dammit) is one of the engineering wonders of the UK canal system, Caen Hill Locks

Now, from Devizes (and I’ve never done this so I don’t know the details) you can catch a bus to Avebury – I’ve been there and can attest to its weirdness. There’s a stone circle/henge which absolutely dwarfs Stonehenge, and the village is, well, built inside it. Some of the village anyway. I’m not saying Don’t go to Stonehenge. But Avebury is better.

(Bristol is also a short train ride from Bath as well.)

j

If you do visit Bristol (which is an interesting place, I lived there best part of a decade), maybe consider a trip out to Glastonbury. It’s mainly known for the massive music festival nearby, but the town itself is very much worth a visit (unless it’s festival season, when the whole area becomes gridlocked).

The area is absolutely steeped in history, real and mythical. There’s bronze age relics, the Tor, which is one of those places that looks much more interesting in person than in pictures, a medieval abbey supposedly built to house the holy grail, a suspicious tomb of the mythical King Arthur and one of the most entertaining high streets going. I used to go there just to people watch and rummage through some of the shops.

The place has to have one of the highest ratios of, shall we say, quirky people anywhere. Want to buy a cloak? What style? Need your chakras realigned? You’ll be spoiled for choice. If you want eclectic, Glastonbury can supply.

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Thank you for those observations. Appreciated.

For me a must see in London would be the Royal Observatory and Harrisons clocks which have fascinated me since I read Dava Sobel’s Longitude.

Obviously there internationally recognised galleries and museums aplenty to take in a selection as the schedule allows. Just like I only saw a couple of the Smithsonians when in Washington.

I’ve absorbed a fair swag of English history and there are those options in abundance, if not excess. Seeing the “Mary Rose” would be of interest. But not really into battlefields and re-enactments.

I’m a scion of a farming family and a visit to the Cotswolds is something on the cards.
Also, having a mandatory complete set of the James Herriot books, a description of farming life so very different from the Riverina Plains, a visit to the Yorkshire dales would be good.

Re: the Cotswolds and the Yorkshire dales, my immediate reaction is that, if you’re limited to public transport, that’s going to be a challenge.

j