I specified in the thread title that comparisons to the books are allowed. I am not sure what the time limit is on spoilers (e.g. do we need to spoiler tag who Luke’s father is in Star Wars?) but the Wheel of Time series started over 30 years ago (the last in the series is nearly nine years old).
That said, it is nice to spoiler tag something for people just in case…or at least note that such a spoiler is forthcoming. If you want a book discussion you can certainly start that thread if you want to.
I’d recommend to anyone keen on reading the books for the first time to avoid the TV show and threads like this. But, of course, they can do as they like about that.
The concern I think isn’t that the books will be spoiled but that the show will be. With the current policy, someone could have posted “hey, we know Rand is the Dragon from the books, who do you think it’ll be here?” from episode 1. People have been mostly good about that so far, but I’d certainly prefer that comparisons be limited to the same rough point in the storyline, and be limited to events that either happened in the show already or don’t have major spoiler potential.
I agree and I would hope people keep comparisons to the books at roughly the same timeframe as in the show. Saying, “Person-X kills Person-Y five books from now,” would be a crappy thing to do and I hope would be spoilered (honestly, probably should not even be brought up).
I think common sense can work here. But, if others do not agree they can start a new thread. I think one thread is better but if this is a problem here then maybe a second makes sense.
I have nothing to contribute other than I saw some braid tugging (not once, but twice). I feel that the series was missing the soul of the books (and considerable page count) until I saw it.
My fanwank as to the door thing is that Rand didn’t break the door with magic, he strengthened himself with magic, so there was no external manifestation of power to see.
I still don’t think the characters see exactly what we see - female channelers will see the threads from other female channelers, and they’ll feel the push of a male channeler if they’re trying to shield them, but otherwise the magic threads are just for the viewers’ benefit, ISTM.
EDIT: I’ve seen unpleasant rumours spreading that Barney Harris did not return to the project due to allegedly not being in favour of COVID vaccinations, which were required for filming to resume. This story is false and malicious. Production on The Wheel of Time resumed in September 2020, three months before the first COVID vaccines were available in the UK and EU and more like seven or eight months before they were readily available to people in their 20s. To our knowledge, Harris did not return to the shoot in September 2020 when the vaccines were still unavailable and nobody was vaccinated. Whatever his reason for not returning, it was completely unrelated to vaccinations.
Reddit seems to think personal reasons because no one is confirming anything and apparently the actor has deleted his social media. But, you know, that’s reddit. If it was for the ever pervasive sex allegations or something similar, I think we would have seen it from a news source first.
Was she not killed by him in the books?
As I said, I’m not a Jordan fan, but even if I was I wouldn’t go back and read all 127 books just to fact check my memory.
He’s been recast, from the above link.
Actor Barney Harris played the role in six episodes of the first season before departing, and actor Dónal Finn has been hired to replace him for the second season.
Oops, that would have been me. I don’t usually post in these type of threads so I didn’t think about a time limit on the spoilers. I’ll try to be more careful. And if I mess up, just tell me to piss off and read the books.
They should really make that more apparent in the show if they are carrying that over from the books. I had no idea about that until it was mentioned upthread. And if the threads are for the viewers*, they should be there all the time for viewers. No suddenly showing them in flashbacks. That just seems like a poor attempt to mislead viewers.
*And they do need to show them to viewers. It would look pretty stupid having people just moving their hands about and Trollocs bursting into flame on the other side of the screen for no apparent reason.
I think Brandon Sanderson(co-author on the final books) seemed to think it was to give us some sympathy to him? Or he is anti-axe/weapon and this explains it a bit more?
He’s got a foot in the door now, hopefully he can get something worked out at the same quality level as Amazon. I’d hate to see it wasted on TNT or SyFy.
His “State of the Sanderson” report this year, which is his overview of 2021 and a preview of future projects, stated that…he’s in the earliest stages of making a movie of it. It screams TV to me, but I’ll take any adaptation.
Almost; he actually is Mordeth. Mordeth’s entire plan was to convince somebody to escort him to the walls of Shadar Logoth, so he could replace their soul with his own; this was the only way he could escape his imprisonment in the city. That’s why he escorted the boys to his treasure hoard, so they would help haul some of it out to his supposed pack animals, but then he freaked out when he found out they were in the city with an Aes Sedai, and they escaped his clutches (though Mat ended up with the dagger, unbeknownst to anybody else). Later, Mordeth caught Fain at the walls after the Myrddraal forced the Trollocs (and Fain) into the city; but because of the Dark One’s twisting of Fain’s soul, to turn him into a hound to locate the Dragon, Mordeth wasn’t able to completely purge Fain, so they became a sort of single entity.
I will finally be watching this series this week (while good and liquored up), and I will post my super-psychotic-fan whining about it, since season one will be finished, after I get back from vacation. I didn’t want to fill the thread with all my negativity while the season was dropping.
I’m excited for the Season Finale. And I’ve started reading the first book because the show got me interested (and I’ve tried a few times in the past and thought Jordan’s writing was… well, a bit much… and just put it down before it really went anywhere). The writing is still fairly annoying to me, but I figure I can get past it for the world and the story.
