Dont the republicans realize that the majority of Americans think Iraq is a wasted and lost cause?
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
I predict this will blow up in their faces.
Cite?
Shhhhh! Don’t tell them!
Eh, who am I kiddng, the old trick of beating the drums of war and calling the anti-war people unpatriotic and treasonous, etc, will still work. Maybe not as much as before, but enough, I’ll bet. The classics never go out of style.
Don’t the Democrats realize that continually criticizing the Republicans without offering alternative solutions hasn’t worked for, oh, going on six years now?
What part of bring the troops home don’t you understand?
Haven’t enough of them died to satisfy you yet?
How many will it take?
All of them, now, every single one? Or some? If some, how many, and from where? When, over the course of a month, three, six, a year, or tomorrow? Do we pull out the folks training the current Iraqi forces too? If not why not? If so, do we wait until they’re capable of supporting themselves? If so, is there a limit?
All of them. Every last mothers son/daughter. Tomorrow if not before. Before one more mother loses her child.
Interesting read here…
Republican: Democrats have no ideas!
Democrat: Bring the troops home right now!
Republcan: Democrats have no ideas! And they’re pussies!
This is fun.
-Joe
I assume you’re using the less popular “eighteen-year-old (or older) person who made his or her own decision to join the military” definition of “child” here.
That notwithstanding, and although I think your source is a little more than optimistic about what would happen in the case of a U.S. pullout, I do appreciate your coming up with an alternative rather than just complaining.
Thanks for playing, but as you can see by my previous response, not quite.
When I joined many many moons ago, I must have missed the box that you checked to agree to die for a lie.
My bad.
Did you check one that said you’d follow lawful orders?
Were you forced to sign the form?
Then you chose to serve, and I sincerely thank you, as I’d thank any of those currently there (and several acquaintances from highschool ARE there), who have chosen to serve.
That’s right. You agreed to serve, now bend over and take it.
Once you’ve finished serving, of course, nobody gives a fuck what you think because you’re not actually in uniform anymore. As a matter of fact, if you speak out against it you’re a COWARD and a TRAITOR.
The really fun thing, though, is that your opinion counted when you were in uniform. Of course, back then you weren’t allowed to publically express disapproval. So your opinion counted, but you were only allowed to express a specific one.
-Joe
Wow, it’s pretty cool how you took what I said there and interpreted it into something entirely different. Asshole.
I humbly submit that the fact that soldiers have freely signed a contract that requires them follow legal orders has absolutely nothing to do with whether it is right for them to continue to, as it was so succintly put by lonesome loser, die for a lie. Either it is right for our soldiers to be deployed in Iraq, or it is not. The fact that they are under legal orders has nothing to do with that question, and I suspect that you know this. Why even bring it up? I further submit (again, humbly) that the fact that our soldiers are all adults has nothing to do with whether or not they have families who might not, oh, want to hear that their kid has died in the sand fighting some meaningless war thousands of miles from home.
You think that we should maintain our troop presence in Iraq? Fine, we can argue that. But let’s not pretend that contracts have anything to do with it :rolleyes:.
The point of the opposition isn’t to provide ideas for the ruling party. It never has been. Look at the Contract with America. It was a nice PR piece saying one thing: “We aren’t as corrupt as the Democrats.”
The Democratic party has offered a clear alternative to the Republican stance. Republicans, however, feel that as long as they say that the Democrats provide no plan, that it will automagically come true.
Piss-poor alternative since your link says only 19% of the people agree we should. I will say it is finally an actual alternative. Too bad only 3 congressmen would actually vote for it.
Actually, I agree that the contract issue has very little to do with the situation in Iraq. What it does have to do with is some people’s emotional tuggin’-on-the-heartstrings use of “child” (or “kid,” though not quite as egregious) when referring to eighteen (or older) year-olds making non-coerced decisions.