I have been watching the History Channel and they have had a lot of programs on different(so called) prophets saying the world would end on December 12th of 2012.( If this is not the proper place for this, I ask the Mods. to please move it for me).
My question is: since there are many Time Zones and in some countries the 12th of December will come to them the day before it gets to the USA, does that mean that the first countries will be destroyed first?
I know the interpretation of these so called prophies can be looked at differently, and I read Nostrodamus and one can make what one wants of his words, and many are after the fact. The Mayan calender would be on a different day then the European date.
In the Oct. 2008 issue of Skeptical Inquirer there is an article entitled, “The Myth of Nibiru and the End of the World in 2012.” Gives you a better perspective of this nonsense.
See, one of the things that will happen at the Ascension Singularity is that humanity will get past our current notions of time and space. So even though we right now think that December 12, 2012 will occur at different times in different time zones, the post-2012 transhumans will understand that the Singularity will happen and has happened in all places at the same time, while still being 12/12/12 in each one. Einstein’s ‘relativity’ was only the first baby step towards a true understanding of time and space, like Nostradamus’s visions inspired by the alien mushroom spores that…
Oh, I can’t keep going. But that’s the kind of answer you should expect to any pointing out of logical flaws in the “2012 Armageddon” theories.
Human beings have a deep need to feel that they are important, and part of that is a desire to feel that they are making History. That often manifests as a desire to feel that they’re living in The End Times; as the various End of The World cults throughout history demonstrate. The 2021 cult is no different that any other.
It means what it always means. That humans think of themselves as the world. Anything that happens matters only if it happens to them. There are no time zones in this thinking, no science, no technology, no larger worldview. To paraphrase Tip O’Neill, all religion is local. That’s why it’s impossible to persuade believers of a particular religion that their beliefs shouldn’t be imposed on others and why it’s impossible to convince believers of other religions to credit them with the same import.
The 2012 myth is a religious belief. It needs to be tucked away in the same corner as creationism. You can’t ask logical questions about it. You can only believe or disbelieve.
You really have little to worry about, unless Mississippi State wins the SEC Championship, and a spot in the BCS Championship. The multiverse as we know it will surely end before the Bulldogs get a national title.
Nostradamus’ quatrains are scary, but they seem to be vague enough to allow a lot of room for interpretation. I remember a TV show about Nostradamus aired about 20 years ago, in which he was supposed to have predicted the world’s ending in 1999.
As I understand it, it’s only the Mayan Time Zone that will be destroyed in 2012. In 2013, the world wil be like a giant orange spinning in space with one segment missing.
What if, this whole Singularity Ascension things is a cycle…the cleansing of the earth so to speak. The pyramids, all these ancient stone temples was a place of refuse. A place for inhabitants of the planet to go deep into the chasms of these monuments as a place of refuse to escape the upcoming cleansing of the earth. Wait for it to be over, then come out and re-populate the planet. There job then is to leave more clues for future generations to let them know of the cycle. They now know that in order to leave clues for future generations they have to set them in stone because anything else would be destroyed by the cleansing.
It’s not even that - it’s a bookkeeping glitch. The Mayan themselves didn’t believe that anything special happens in 2012, other that their calender rebooting.
This is based on the end of the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar, used most notably by the Mayans, so the exact time would be based on their time zone, and also on their concept of what time the day starts. And it’s likely they didn’t really take into account that the day starts at a different time in different places.
The most widely accepted interpretation of the calendar places the date at December 21 2012 but there is a second interpretation that places it at the 23rd.
The Long Count was established to record times longer than 52 years, which was the time it took to get through the combination of the 365 day solar calendar and 260 day (corresponding to the precession of Venus) ceremonial calendar. The ‘zero’ date was set to a past date (3114 BCE).
Dates are divided into different partitions, each of a different base, such as “12.19.16.12.3”. December 20 2012 would be 12.19.19.17.19 and then roll over to 13.0.0.0.0 on the next day. One way of interpreting this is simply of interpreting it like the odometer on a car - it has no special significance other than resetting to zero.
They also had the concept of ‘worlds’ or ‘suns’ - cycles of history between which the world is destroyed and then recreated. We live in the fourth cycle, the previous three having been destroyed by various calamities, being failures of the Gods, and the current one being the first successful one,and the first with people. The previous world also ended on a 12.19.19.17.19. It’s not clear whether this cycle being successful and filled with people will mean that the next cycle will not also be the destruction of this cycle and the creation of the next. There’s no specific indication whether the calendar change will mean a new world, other than extrapolation from past cycles, and there are some key differences in this cycle.
There are some references to dates after 12/21/12 in ancient writings, so presumably they either thought the world would continue in some form, or didn’t think about the connection.
There seems to be only one actual prophetic reference to 12/21/12, and it’s partially obscured by wear on the stone (translation here - look for the PDF link in the Tortuguero section). It’s also from the Tortuguero, who use a 20 cycle instead of a 13, so their calendar would not end at 13, it would take 7 more periods of 144,000 days each past this date.
Some people point to a possible convergence with the galactic center, but this is more of a New Age thing, and is not astronomically accurate except within a 30 year or so margin of error.
Some mystical groups and fiction authors theorize that time itself will end, at least as a meaningful concept, people will exist but in s state outside of linear time - see The Invisibles (the ‘hypercontext’) and Promethea for examples.
Thanks, Yes, I realized I had the wrong day but it was too late to edit, so I thought the day itself was not as important as someone giving a date that varied in different time zones.
