The Worst For Prince Andrew

My guess is not that your HR people don’t want to accept an unhyphenated surname but instead that the database has a problem with a space in the surname field.

No because they managed it for someone with enough senior management support. For a cashier from the DR, they aren’t going to bother with whatever workaround that took.

It’s just laziness and stupidity. Our IT and HR teams sometimes seem to be competing for the dunce cap.

We once had someone quit because when they were hired they were put into the HR system as (names changed for privacy) Claude instead of Claudia and then were told they could not change it. They were going to have to work with an email address did not reflect their name. They could use the name change process to change their name in the HR system but not their email address.

So HR onboarded someone whose name did not match the documents they furnished to prove their work eligibility. Then IT says, too bad, so sad. She quite rightly quit on Thursday of week 1, and went back to her previous employer.

Our HRIS system is an implementation of a well known, industry standard one. We are a company with over 100k employees across many “divisions” (companies acquired over the decades). HR and IT are corporate functions. We have a culture where a junior financial analyst in “Corporate” is perfectly comfortable telling a Division CFO [literally] “stay in your lane, these requirements are there for reasons we need not explain to you”.

Actually, there were three separate armies - the Common Army under the Imperial Minister of War, the Landwehr under the Austrian government, and the Honvéd under the Hungarian government. A nicely complicated arrangement dictated by national politics - Hungary insisted that the Honvéd use Hungarian as the language used by officers, for example, while the Landwehr and Common Army both used German.

Knew that but didn’t include it for brevity’s sake. The Honvéd also included the Royal Croatian Home Guard (Kraljevsko hrvatsko domobranstvo), whose training was carried out in Croatian.

There were other quirks. In 1908, Austria-Hungary annexed the Ottoman territory of Bosnia-Herzegovina, which it had occupied since 1878. It was a condominium between the Austrian and Hungarian halves of the monarchy and was administered by the joint Austro-Hungarian Ministry of Finance.

And thereby hangs a tale (which we don’t need to go into now..)

Worked with a Puerto Rican on my last boat. The name tapes on his dungarees had neither a hyphen nor a space between his names. Instead of “Name1 Name2” or “Name1-Name2” they said “Name1Name2”.

Michael Che on SNL’s “Weekend Update”: “Andrew says he can only become prince again if he gets a kiss from a young princess.”

I’d be surprised if the database couldn’t handle surnames like Van Buren.

I can tell you that the database can. The data entry interface on the other hand may not be able to.

The workaround is for someone to go in through a back door and fix it

Apparently fixing the front end to allow spaces and characters other than hyphens is beyond the abilities of the IT team. AIUI this is NOT inherent to SuccessFactors, the HRIS platform. It’s some customization we made to the front end.

Ability? Probably not. Interest, priorities, or budget? More likely.

Somebody saw this and is deathly afraid of the single quote character. Which sucks if your name is O’Hara, O’Connor, etc.


from xkcd: Exploits of a Mom.

As the possessor of a last name with an apostrophe, I can attest to the associated issues (and did back in April, in a thread on another topic).

Why not? Did Parliament remove him from his place in line?
Oooohhhh, I know why. There has not been a monarch of England since 1707.

In a way, Andrew has been de facto excluded from the line of succession. If a major disaster wiped out the King and numbers 1-7 in the queue (William, his children, Harry, his children) tomorrow, Andrew would be next in line, and would accede to the throne as a matter of law. But I suppose public opinion would not accept him, so there’d be tremendous pressure on him to abdicate. I guess they’d try to sweeten the deal with a lifetime allowance and then ship him off to retirement.

Many years ago, we combined our local database to the head office for payroll where I worked. The local database defined surnames as X(25) whereas the head office database was A(25). (Ah, COBOL - those were the days) It crapped off on names like “O’Keefe” and “de Graves”. Rather than try to change every occurrence of the name field in evey program in the system, they simply removed non-alpha characters - “OKEEFE” and “DEGRAVES”. (It’s not like anyone worked with lower case in those days) Of course, that program was written in the 70’s (or earlier) and was soon replaced by a purchased program in anticipation of Y2K.

By which time the damage was done, the database corrupted by incorrectly punctuated surnames, and no one would pay to correct the violence done to those names in the course of migration to the new system.

But at least the corrections could be made once the new system was in place. Just no guarantee everything was fixed, particularly for ex-employees who weren’t around to complain. And fortunately, before the trend for hypenated surnames became popular.

The British seem to be a fickle lot: don’t they remember he was a hero of the Falklands war?

I’m so glad you mentioned this. Had things gone differently on Saturday night, we might have eaten there (!).

(It’s Pizza Express in Woking. We were there for a show (Alan Davies), running late and looking for somewhere to eat. Fortunately we found a cracking little Greek place with a table free. Pizza Express was about a quarter mile away, and would have been an emergency takeaway option. The significance of pizza in Woking had slipped from my mind until the support comic, chatting to the audience, asked where people went for a night out in Woking. Someone shouted out “Pizza Express!”, which brought the house down. Best joke of his set, certainly.)

I just have two questions:
Why does a Prince of the UK need to have girls hired for him?
What does God need with a starship?