Such hospitality, you can’t tear yourself away for 444 days!
Wow! I believe it, every single bit of it. The 10% of Iranian males who thought they were gay were clearly bamboozled by Western democracy and idolatrous Christianity!
And as for freedom, Who needs it?
“We’ve been doing fine without freedom for centuries!” - the late Ayatollah Khomeini. (Where is this fine voice of moderation when we really need it!)
… snort… I’m so happy we’ve been brought up to date.
(please, dear fellow dopers, don’t let yourselves be wooshed by this post of mine, mkay?)
He wasn’t in fucking Persia, he was in New York fucking City - which has its own fucking culture, consisting, largely, of not giving a fuck
That’s what I was hearing when I read the thread title.
I say good for Ahmadinejodhpur - he’s assured himself a place in gay lore next to Rick Santorum and so many other morons. It’s too bad he didn’t fly to Minneapolis after his talk and find himself in a bathroom stall next to Larry Craig.
It dawns upon me why satellite dishes are frowned upon in some countries.
Yes indeed. Unfortunately I couldn’t think of anything better.
I think I heard rumours at Ahmadinejad.isgay.com !
The title should read, “There are no gays because THEY ran.” Har-har
I couldn’t resist. :o
There are no fags in Iran
Won’t it be nice when we get to Iran?
In Iran there are not fags!
But back home in mother America…
Aaah…
Our Family was travelling through the snow to Buffalo
Suddenly Papa saw those huge fag prints
When I heard him screaming I fainted dead away
And I woke up - parents divorced!
Oy vay. But… but?
But there are no fags in Iran
And the streets are paved with cheese
Oh there are no no fags in Iran
So set your mind at ease
you think a-things were a-bad in a-America
you should a-see things in a-my country!
Times were hard in Sicily we had a-no provolone
The Don he was a faggot with a taste for my brother Tony
When Dada went to plead a-for him the Don said he would see him
We found used condom on the ground
poor Papa mia. But…
But there are no fags in Iran
And the streets are paved with cheese
Oh there are no fags in Iran
So set your mind at ease
Sure, that’s sad, but sadder still…
When I was but a lass I lost my true love fair
A Homo, he caught us by surprise
In a flash of shaved crotch his ass was buggered raw
'Neath a heather is where Tura Lura lies. But…
But there are no fags in Iran
And the streets are paved with cheese
(There are no fags in Iran)
Oh there are no fags in Iran
(And the streets are paved with cheese)
So set your mind at ease
(Oh there are no fags in Iran)
But there are no fags in Iran
(So set your mind at ease)
And the streets are paved with cheese
(But there are no fags in Iran)
That’s why we sail these seas!
I thought Bollinger’s remarks were great. Columbia invited him in the spirit of free speech, and in that same spirit the dean told him exactly what he thought of him.
This guy is not an ‘honored guest’. He’s a lying, murdering thug who denies the holocaust, sponsors terror, executes homosexuals, beats women and kills them for adultery, and wishes to inflict a second holocaust on the Jewish people. It would have been an outrage to treat him as an honored guest.
My guess is that he was invited specifically so that free speech could be used to shine a light on the little cockroach. Let him have his say, let everyone hear how batshit insane he is, and make it clear that no one is fooled by his ‘I’m just a mild academic’ schtick.
No gays in Iran?
Well I’ll be buggered.
Figuratively speaking y’unnerstand
The gall of someone from the United States, daring to critique another man.
There’s really no doubting A has the better half of the argument. More power to him.
Not in Iran you won’t!
Weren’t all the Iranian gays wiped out in the non-holocaust?
The scansion fits “The Internet is For Porn,” from Avenue Q.
I’m just sayin’.
See? This is why it’s okay to let the crazy guys speak. Everybody in America had a good laugh at his expense, and we didn’t have to lift a finger.
No, I’m not, or at least not that you’ve proven. The fact that the Iranian people will never hear the truth of how their President was addressed doesn’t mean they would not be insulted on his or their country’s behalf if they did hear the truth of it.
It matters because to some of us how you treat a guest is indicative of how you conduct yourself. You don’t invite someone into your home or your place of business and then insult them. It’s rude and it’s also dishonest: You have obtained their presence by invitation and they reasonably will assume civil conduct, but then you don’t extend them civil conduct. They are ostensibly your guest, but you don’t treat them as a guest. It’s the same dishonesty and disconnect of shaking a person’s hand and then insulting them. If you can’t be minimally civil to a person, then you don’t have them as a guest because the social obligation due to a guest prohibits incivility.
If no one cares what they think, why invite the man to speak? If his status as a criminal puts him beyond the pale of bare civility, then he should not have been invited to appear. And there is a world of difference between the bare civility due to any guest and whatever you might accord to an “honored guest.” You don’t have to give the guy a big warm hug, to the contrary you can be as frosty as a Popsicle. But that doesn’t mean that direct public insults are therefore acceptable. IMO, they are not.
Oh sod it then, I’ll go to Morocco instead
Well, maybe one.
Regards,
Shodan
That’s a false dichotomy, Sam. Bollinger didn’t have to call him an “honored guest” instead of insulting him. Call him on the facts, and point out the problems. Name calling is a way of giving the other guy the upper hand in the argument.
And the fact is, as bad as Iran is, it’s one of the more open societies in the Middle East. Women and minorities have it much better there than in places like Saudi Arabia, our erstwhile “ally”. We can engage with Iran constructively, the same way we did with South Africa, and that is what we should be doing. Frankly speaking, our interests are much more aligned with them than with states like Saudi Arabia.
Iranians want to be our friends, even if their government is duplicitous. Let’s not give their government more legitimacy in the eyes of the Iranian people.